How did you stumble into the industry? What got you started?

Yeah, stumble is definitely the correct word.

Like probably most of us, I started in high school, just as a way to pay for life and then continued it on through university.

And that just kept progressing.

I thought when I finished my undergrad, I'd Jump out, go to something in my field, started applying places and doing interviews and the starting wages in those fields, which were fields, which were mainly research-based.

were basically what I made in the summer.

So decided I'll probably just stick with this landscaping company that's offering me a salary job that's way higher with way more time off.

How do you see that kind of taking over the prairie industry? Have you guys seen it?

Yeah, 100%.

Keith, what about you? How are you feeling about Mortal Shelter? I mean, we've already talked about this multiple times, but I've always felt like the first game was a decent first attempt.

It did feel like it was an unfinished product at times and started to feel more like a tech demo, especially towards the end of the game.

Also, they didn't really have a good understanding or grasp of the stamina system, which sucks.

Didn't make out how many times you upgraded your stamina in that game.

It sucked.

So I was happy when they were like, hey we're getting rid of stamina like thank god there's no more because it sucked but i've played the hell out of the demo and everything is better the animations are better the combat's better the world building is better the enemies are better everything it's like all right how would you rate one to one to ten eleven like it's so good it feels perfect i know a lot of people are like when you talk about souls, like in soul games, you go from software.

Okay, so what is Blood of the Dawnwalker for people that don't know?

What player are you gonna go up to on the short game area?

You said it already.

It's Duff.

I think Duff is the most underrated short game in the history of the PGA Tour.

I have so many stories about him, you know, helping me, hitting shots.

I'll never forget, I was at the Dominican Republic last year, and he was playing one of his, uh, last few events, and I was in, down in this little bowl hitting shots.

And he walked by.

Yeah.