Kazuhiko Torishima

One sec, let me check this.

Okay, this famous editor is Kazuhiko Torishima.

This editor who worked closely with Akira Toriyama really, really praised Tetsuya Chiba's manga Ore wa Teppei.

And that was about Kendo.

I went into this expecting it to very much feel like filler and it starts off that way.

But then I think it turns into, man, and I don't know if we have an actual interview on file talking about Torishima and Toriyama specifically towards the end of the Red Ribbon Army arc where maybe Toriyama was told like, hey, get back to tournaments.

I don't know.

But that's what this feels like is happening here is that this is very much ending an era of Dragon Ball and saying, we're going forward with recognizing how powerful Goku is and that he has a long road ahead of him.

It just feels weird as a reader knowing

that already.

That's why this feels so much to me like Torishima stepped in and said, you need to move forward.

This is Toriyama getting all his chess pieces back together, letting them intermingle before he spreads them back out again.

Something I've been reading and sourcing for a huge portion of this was this really extensive interview with Riku Sanjo, who was the author, the writer of The Adventure of Dai.

And Toriyama comes up a lot here with regard to Toriyama's art style and also the way that Torishima was kind of shepherding The series he was editorially controlling during this time.

Just two little tidbits that you can read more about if you want to read the full interview yourself.

It's fully in Japanese, but I'll give you a little summary here.

One of the reasons that Sanjo and Torishima even went with...

Koji Inada as the artist for The Adventure of Dai was the way that he didn't just straight up copy Toriyama's art style as is from the character designs of Dragon Quest, but kind of had his own spin on it.

And in particular, the way that he captured kind of like the texture of the slimes.

I thought that was just super, super cool and a really novel way to differentiate it while pulling the

So as we may recall from our last episode, we've been carefully laying the groundwork of how all these people got together and how they got involved into games.

We talked about the person kind of unheralded in the West who was really responsible for a lot of this, the legendary manga editor Kazuhiko Torishima.

We of course talked about Yuji Horii, the creator of Dragon Quest, also Koichi Nakamura, the genius programmer of the delightful puzzle game Door Door, who has already by this point founded his own company while still at university, Chunsoft, and we also talked about the legendary mangaka Akira Toriyama, and the beginnings of Enix as a publisher of games.

By the end of it, we had gotten to the point where, uh, Horii, as a follow-up to his first game, Love Match Tennis, has released the classic Japanese text with pictures adventure game, The Portopia Serial Murder Case, which is going on to great success, and has, along with Nakamura and Torishima, ventured across the Pacific Ocean to Apple Fest at the end of 1983, where they beheld wizardry for the first time, the pioneering RPG that we have done episodes on as well, did a whole Sir-Tech episode that covered that, and fell head over heels in love with RPGs.

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biggest like there's haters out there in other communities or whatnot but when it comes to the cream of the crop haters this dude is it and i'm gonna be honest i think it's time that we talk about this there's been one dude behind the scenes that has just been like the biggest hater in all of anime like other communities got issues or problems or whatever the case may be but nothing quite like this dude in the world of dragon ball and in case you don't know who i'm talking about i'm referring to the previous or former editor of akira toriyama from dragon ball the original dragon ball manga like this dude was you know very integral to the creation of dragon ball but homie makes sure to showcase every time that when it comes to the route of petty he's never going out his way homie is right on schedule and right on route to be petty like yeah that dude he he's pretty brutal with what he says and he comes across pretty harsh sometimes and he recently came out with some very short words but nevertheless it spoke volumes to the community of dragon ball fans and dragon ball haters to be honest with you because some dragon ball haters are probably going to use this moving forward as like yo dog if Torishima-san is you know what I'm saying talking reckless about which it wasn't really reckless but you know people are gonna run with this thing for miles and miles but if this dude that was a part of the creation of the good stuff of Dragon Ball Dragon Ball Dragon Ball Z he was there with Toriyama then that means that clearly Dragon Ball Super Beerus is just this this new Dragon Ball anime is not worth it and it's terrible because this dude is not really feeling it Which before we continue let's actually get to what he said because again it was short worded but again for many people it just it spoke volumes because this thing just started.

Former Dragon Ball editor Kazuhiko Torishima comments on episode 1 of Dragon Ball Super Beerus.

He said watch the first episode I'm as grumpy as Beerus.

Now clearly there's many different ways of course that this can be taken.

Uh, the way I would describe the Adventure of Dai, both as this anime but also as just a, a series as a whole, it's kinda like the best B minus, C plus show you'll ever watch.

Uh, got a lot of heart, uh, but it's also the most generic shonen that's ever been genericized under the tutelage of Kazuhiko Torishima.

[laughs] Um, but I like it a lot.

Uh, Pop is the heart of that series.