Do you care to share a bit of that origin story?

Sure.

Well, I, you know, I've been a therapist since I was 20 or 21, I'm 70 now.

So it's 50 years.

It's like freaks me out.

But I started out as a massage therapist and I, I, you know, I was, well, I was already a social worker.

I got my bachelor's degree in social work.

yeah can you sh yeah let's talk about guides what do you how i guess yeah how for listeners who are like what what like what are what are they talking about like a guide came in like how would you you know what are guides