Okay.

Yes.

I mean, Holcomb and I were especially tight Uh, we started, I started in 2003, and he started, I think, in '01.

Um, so fairly early on in our careers, we became really good friends, and I think I just became, like, his annoying little sister, [laughs] to be honest.

I basically came into the system as a kid.

I was 19.

Um, you know, Holcomb was 20, I think, when he got involved, and I don't know how it happened, but we started drinking.

Mm.