Kathy Hirsh-Pasek

You're engaged.

You make it meaningful, not by someone else's design, but by your agency.'" Yeah, see, Kathy Hirsh-Pasek, a psychology professor and director of Infant Language Laboratory, like, Kathy Hirsh-Pasek, okay, would do good to spend some time where the kids are.

It's very important to spend time where the kids are.

Do you know what I mean? I mean, it re- this, this, this is probably new, so it's not her fault.

Hello, are you talking to me? What can you see? Can you see the dog?" So there was this huge difference in terms of the interactions and the stuff that was happening for children at home.

Um, but I would definitely recommend having a look at the work of Kathy Hirsh-Pasek, 'cause she does some amazing stuff.

And what she talks about is that real importance of it not just being about the words, but about the connection, about the warmth, the attention, the listening, that serve and return.

That's where the magic lies, and it's going back again to sustained shared thinking and the magic of making it up as you go along.