Kathryn Nicolai

Welcome to First This, a short mindfulness practice and message for any time.

I'm Kathryn Nicolai.

So good that you're here today.

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This is Diane Bodin, and you're listening to The Minimalist Moms Podcast.

I don't know about you, but have you ever crawled into bed exhausted, and suddenly your brain decides it's the perfect time to replay conversations, plan tomorrow's to-do list, and worry about everything you didn't finish? If that sounds familiar, you're not alone, and in today's episode, I sit down with Kathryn Nicolai, creator of the wildly popular Nothing Much Happens sleep podcast, to explore why so many of us struggle to quiet our minds at the end of the day.

Drawing from years of teaching meditation and helping millions of listeners fall asleep, Kathryn explains why our brains aren't broken.

They're simply doing what they've been trained to do in a world of constant urgency and information overload.

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And now, here's my conversation with Kathryn Nicolai.

Kathryn, I'm so excited to have you join me today to talk about sleep.