Kate Silverton

That's Dr. Ronnie Chung, who is a consultant pediatrician based in London.

He's also joined by Kate Silverton, who's a child therapist and parenting author, back with us.

Good to have both of you this morning.

Uh, let me start with you, uh, Dr. Ronnie.

So I think there's long, there's deep-rooted societal causes as well as actually our ability to be able to, to provide support in, um, from a health service perspective as well, which both of which are important to tackle.

Interesting.

Uh, let me bring in Kate Silverton, who has been listening, uh, to our conversation.

Good to have you back with us, Kate.