Karl Brazil

He'd come over to England and then we'd get together and start putting it together.

And, of course, the other guys, they are living in Birmingham, the drummer, Carl Brazil.

But we had to wait till Carl, because Carl was on tour with Robbie Williams.

So we had to wait until Carl sort of finished and got a little short break in between the tours to come and play.

But I liked the idea of having a band situation.

So let me get a little bit more from you on these other people that play on this.

You mentioned Carl Brazil plays with Robbie Williams, not the first person you'd think of to do a heavy rock record as the drummer in Robbie Williams' band.

So how did you decide to work with him?