Can you address the prevalence of shame around postpartum depression? Because we're supposed to be so happy we have a newborn, and when we're not feeling happy...

So I think that we've had more national conversations surrounding mental health in this country in recent years.

People like Serena Williams talking about her postpartum depression.

We have folks.

like Alison Felix, who's an Olympian track runner.

She talked about her postpartum depression.

We have individuals like Naomi Osaka and Simone Biles who have talked about their anxiety.

If someone suspects that they themselves might have postpartum depression or that someone they care about does, what should they do?

So if somebody in our lives, how would we know if they're experiencing depression or anxiety during pregnancy if they are reluctant to share it because they're ashamed of it?

Yeah, that's a good question.

I mean, I think...

It's all about communication.

It's all about normalizing conversation.

So that's one of the things that I'm a big proponent of is normalizing the conversation surrounding mental health.

I think we're doing a better job of that.

Is there a typical timeframe for pregnancy symptoms that, you know, it's a mood swing because of the hormones and then all of a sudden like, no, this is something different.