Karen MacNeil

So I think that's great.

I don't know whether you've ever talked about this or whether you know Karen MacNeil from-

No

... uh, she, she lives in, in, in the Napa.

We talk about, uh, McKinsey a little bit.

I was a, took a sabbatical in the middle of my time there and studied wine with Karen MacNeil at the Culinary Institute of America.

Mm-hmm.

And that turned an interest into more of a passion to the point where, like, you know, now I'm, like, working in wine.

What is, um, when you were taking... 'Cause this also is like, you know, '07, '08, like there's no...

There's very little online education happening.

I mean, you had University of Phoenix, but like, like it was, you were going to classes, and Karen MacNeil was teaching the class.

Yeah.

John Boynton is the CEO of Arterra Wines Canada, the country's largest wine company.

He, along with Wine Growers Canada, are championing Come Over October, a movement created by Karen MacNeil, author of The Wine Bible.

It's now in its second year in Canada, and the theme is really simple: open your door, open a bottle, and reconnect with the people you love.

So today we're talking about why connection has become so difficult, what the wine industry is facing, and how a bottle on the table still brings people together.