Karen Barad

... and Material Ecocriticism by Iovino and Oppermann.

And, uh, Meeting the Universe Halfway by Karen Barad is always, always, always a great book to read, dense and, and difficult to read for, I think, most people, but it's a beautiful book.

What do you tell yourself or practice on a day-to-day to stay grounded and inspired?

I journal a lot.

Yeah.

But, uh, Bayo Akomolafe and Karen Barad and a few others talk about intrabeing, which I-

Yeah.

We can talk about this.

And then finally, it looks at indigeneity.

And how interconnection, I think I use, I also look at Karen Barad, who is talking about quantum physics and thinking about interconnection, how everything is fundamentally connected.

And therefore, anything you do actually alters everything.

you know, the whole world.

I mean, there's really interesting things in physics.

I think it's Karen Barad, he talks about performativity and links it to the kind of quantum physics in really interesting ways.

So there are, you know, ways in which these ideas have permeated out towards the natural sciences.

And I think one of the things that is fair to say about Butler, and I talk a bit about the book, is that in their work, some of the biological stuff becomes difficult to explain and has been a long source of debate.

And this was kind of the product.

And then also for me, it was something I wanted to do because I came from the sciences, especially physics into social theory, like through the work of Karen Barad and so on.

And I've always been interested in how people include the material world and how they mix it, uh, uh, how they include it in social theory and how they deal with it, that for a, a geographer, for geographers, it's very interesting and, uh, important, uh, thing to do.

So that's the simple answer.

And all of those other ways of knowing are deeply porous and intertwined.

to call in a term from feminist quantum physicist Karen Barad, that mind is something that doesn't belong to beings, but emerges when beings interact in the ecotone and the overlap of beings coming together.

How would you answer it today?

Yeah, well, I very similarly.

It's only in recent history that we have narrowed our epistemological frame to a Euro-patriarchal paradigm, whereby we only know things when we can measure them, when we can quantify them, that we have... disregarded most of our ways of knowing.

And all of those other ways of knowing are deeply porous and interdependent, to call in a term from feminist quantum physicist Karen Barad, that mind is something that doesn't belong to beings, but emerges when beings interact in the ecotone and the overlap of beings coming together.

How would you answer it today?

Yeah, well, I...