So obviously, like when I was looking over your website, it gave me a bit of an understanding, but we would love to hear your perspective on it.

Yeah, so in October of 2023, I went camping with a girlfriend, and the whole time she kept talking about how she's been camping a million times but never set up the tent or never made a fire by herself.

And then we went mountain biking, and she just kept saying, like, wow, it feels so cool to try something new, like, without somebody, like, laughing at me as I, like, ride my brakes down the hill or, like, squeal while I'm, like, going around a fast turn.

And I came out of that trip being like, wow, like, it felt super cool to, like, I don't know, be out there with somebody and help them experience this.

And so, you know, the wheels started getting turned, the wheels started to turn, and eventually, like, the idea of OpenTrail kind of came to fruition.

It kind of changed a bit over, you know, the months, but...

I initially was thinking of doing like just trips away.

But it didn't sound like it stopped you.