Kalynn Bayron

So I'm, um, and the whole team here is very much a proponent of, of publishing very diversely.

And so, um, I was actually thinking about this in terms of, uh, when I was at Bloomsbury, and seeing my boss at the time really push for this, was when, um, they acquired Cinderella Is Dead by Kalynn Bayron, which is a Cinderella retelling, um, by a now bestselling author, and this was her debut.

And at the time, the acquisitions room was saying, like, "Oh, we've seen so many Cinderella retellings before." But, well, who's now the children's publisher over there, uh, Mary Kate Castellani, had really-

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