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No, uh, yeah.

It's, it, it's been interesting how it's evolved.

Um, I think, you know, I, we both rely on each other's palates.

Um, typically, like in the c- like in a, [clears throat] in a kitchen setting, like I'll generally, you know, come up with the idea, work on the concept, and, and pass it over to Jen.

And she knows, um, exactly w- what it's missing or what it needs or c- you know, helps me, um, fill in the gaps.

Uh, yeah, and that's how we've been working.

... where he was a camper and a camp counselor, so fulfilling the dream of, uh, cooking for all these kids currently.

Were these, like, quick decisions for you, or was there, like, a long conversation behind the scenes about that?

Uh, there, the, the lead up to the conversation was very long.

I think I was sitting in the back of a warehouse for at least two hours while they were, you know, fi- figuring out what's going on with Jen.

I think, you know, they put everything on pause.

Yeah, I believe the other contestants, too, were kind of, uh, left in the dark while, while production sorted everything out.

So there was a, a, you know, a huge standstill for, for most of the day.

And then, yeah, once, you know, we're, I was able to talk to Jen on the phone, uh, they needed me to make a decision pretty quickly.

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