Justin Gatlin

Yeah, the, the, the Italian thing.

I think it was Justin Gatlin in China, or J- was it Japan?

Japan, yeah, when he did a Japanese TV show, yeah.

Yeah.

biggest asterisk that has ever asterisked, if that's even a word.

You know what I mean? It's like going back and giving Justin Gatlin a gold medal because he came second to Usain Bolt or Asif Powell or someone like that.

They don't really want it because they weren't there in the...

At the time, they were second in the race, whatever happened.

Johan Blake in 2011, Jamaican Championships.

Justin Gatlin, 2017 World Championships.

Christian Coleman, 2017 World.

How does a man who runs faster than everybody lose to anybody? You know how? Because somebody, even though maybe for a race, ran as fast as him for longer.

I actually looked back.

I went to look back at the... um the races in poland and then also her race in eugene it's the exact same form like it's the exact same form you can see tina tina clayton is actually dipping amy hunt is actually dipping even melissa and even julian even though julian isn't like dipping heavily she's still dipping but she carries like leaning backwards like it's that famous um well to me it's the famous um 2012 Olympic final where you see Tyson Gay leaning back, you know, and he gets, you know, he runs nine eight zero to Justin Gatlin's nine seven nine.

Obviously Tyson Gay was later banned, but it's like, um, it's crazy.

It's crazy.

So that to me is also a key difference in this situation.

Well, didn't Justin Gatlin not really fess up either, Jon? I mean, people-

Well, the Justin Gatlin situation, it...

What are you asking about there? I mean, he, he never-- When he, he was fighting, when he was sort of fighting his innocence, he never kind of gave the full explanation of why or if he thought he was innocent, so there was a lot of confusion in that.

And right, and maybe th- that gets back to what I was talking at.

So that, to me, is also a key difference in this situation.

Well, didn't Justin Gatlin not really fess up either, Jon? I mean, people...

Well, the Justin Gatlin situation, it...

What are you asking about there? I mean, he, he never-- When he, he was fighting, when he was sort of fighting his innocence, he never kind of gave the full explanation of why or if he thought he was innocent, so there was a lot of confusion in that.

And right.