Juris Hartmanis

But, but maybe I came away thinking, "All right, I, I shouldn't be using this dis computers kind of, like, approach." So there are a bunch of different other definitions that I encountered in the course of, of working on this story.

One of them that I liked a lot came from the computer scientist Ryan Williams, who's at MIT, who actually attributed it to this mentor of his, Juris Hartmanis, and he said basically computer science is the study of processes and how they evolve, and that part is kind of what we've already talked about a little bit, but then the part that really stuck with me is the other sciences ask why, while computer science asks how.

And it's not so much about what is the subject, so it's kind of bypassing the about there and, like, what's the attitude that you take toward the subject of study.

And that how question is just...