Jurchen people
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Oct 28, 2026
A Concise History of China-Pangu to Puyi - Part 10
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11:19Laszlo MontgomeryHOST
The Khitan language had similarities to both Turkic and Mongolic languages.
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11:24Laszlo MontgomeryHOST
The Tungusic people were mostly in the eastern part of Siberia, but the largest speakers in this linguistic group were the Manchus and their predecessors, the Jurchens.
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11:36Laszlo MontgomeryHOST
These all comprised the Altaic language group, Mongol, Turkic, and Tungusic.
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11:41Laszlo MontgomeryHOST
They were quite different, but not so different that one couldn't easily learn the other's language.
The Worst of History 14: Kublai Khan, Becoming of Flesh
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14:49TitusHOST
It's full.
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14:50TitusHOST
It actually has maritime trade, which is kind of unique in chinese history because they're not big fans of boats a lot of you will know about the treasure fleet that they go and send off and kind of disappears and then they're like we're never doing this boat stuff again also because it's something that happens in kublai khan's reign um but yeah the song have this very very built-up bureaucracy the jinn in the north are sort of flipped instead of having confucian bureaucrats be in charge of everything, you have the sort of military aristocracy of a group of people called the Jurchen.
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15:27TitusHOST
Now, Jurchen aren't Han, what the Chinese will claim is the native Chinese people, just a whole other debate.
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15:34TitusHOST
But they're ruling in a more militaristic style, and they've sort of abandoned the civil service exam, which during the reigns of the Khans has been around for decades.
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15:46TitusHOST
a thousand years roughly.
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15:48TitusHOST
And the concept of it is everyone, if you want to work in government, you take this exam.
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15:54TitusHOST
And if you score well enough relative to everyone else, you get to work in the government.
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15:59TitusHOST
The Jurchen up north just don't do that.
#283 - Qing 22: Crimson Snow
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46:34Chris StewartHOST
He was, as ever, aware of the possibility of an intervention by the Jin, who might think to use this opportunity to bloody the Mongols' nose through an 11th hour alliance with Xisha.
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46:45Chris StewartHOST
Therefore, he had additional units along the northern border placed to cut off any potential Jurchen reinforcement from advancing against him.
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46:53Chris StewartHOST
His strategy would be much as it had been in both northern China and, more recently, in Khwarazm, devastate the farmlands and cut the people off from their food supply.
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47:04Chris StewartHOST
A cold start to a campaign was usually taken as a fortuitous sign for Mongol war parties, but this was a particularly brutal winter.
The Mongol invasion of the Jin Dynasty🎙️Ft @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory 
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2:19Jack MeisterGUEST
And then going into the early years of the war in China.
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2:24Jack MeisterGUEST
and probably wrapping up around the year 1215, by which point the city that we now know today is Beijing, but at the time, Zhongdu, the capital of the Jurchen-ruled Jin Dynasty, falls to the Mongols, and Chinggis Khan's attention after that will be drawn to the west, to Central Asia, to the Khwarezmian Empire.
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2:47Jack MeisterGUEST
which will be the focus of our following episode.
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2:51Jack MeisterGUEST
So our story is starting in what is marked here as the Grand Horde on your map here, which I assume is supposed to be a site that we see called in the Mongolian accounts the Yiki Aguruk, or today probably the archaeological site known as Avarga.
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8:00GauravHOST
point of view that they are actually like maybe say about like kind of more of a vassal relationship.
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8:05GauravHOST
So this is a very
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8:06Jack MeisterGUEST
interesting question, because I would argue There is probably still a formal or informal vassal relationship between the early Mongol Empire when it's established in 1206 with the Jurchen-ruled Jin Dynasty to the south, which on the map here is this yellow state.
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8:31Jack MeisterGUEST
If you allow me to share
Bonus - Mongol 5: The Shaman
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26:26Chris StewartHOST
Genghis' Mongol nation received its first major influx of such southern delights from the Uyghur tradesmen that made their way from the borders of the Taklamakan Desert far to the southwest.
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26:36Chris StewartHOST
The Uyghurs had, since the 1130s, been a vassal people of the Qara Khitan, a remnant of the old Khitan Liao dynasty founded by Yelü Dashi, who had fled to the west evading the Jurchen conquest of Manchuria in the 1120s.
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26:49Chris StewartHOST
The name Qara Khitan is most commonly understood as meaning the Black Khitans, which both fits with their dynastic color as well as their favored classical element, metal.
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26:59Chris StewartHOST
Fittingly, Qara Khitan is known in Chinese sources as the Western Liao Dynasty.
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32:12Chris StewartHOST
No, they would have to bring that endlessly rich lifestream of wealth to them, by force if necessary.
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32:18Chris StewartHOST
Until this point, virtually no one outside of the steppes had taken any note of the goings-on therein, of this Mongol band that had stitched the region together so suddenly, or of its charismatic, if aging, leader known as Genghis.
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32:30Chris StewartHOST
No one but the Jurchen Jin Empire cared what nomadic barbarian killed another and crowned himself king of the wastes.
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32:37Chris StewartHOST
And even then, the Jin only cared just far enough to ensure that they would ultimately tip the balance in their favor.
#252 - Ming 37: The Donglin Debacle
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2:10Chris StewartHOST
Our country used to consist of Manchu, Hada, Ula, Yehe, and Huifa.
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2:16Chris StewartHOST
Those who did not know better called us Jurchen.
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2:20Chris StewartHOST
Hong Taiji, Emperor Taizong of Qing, 1635 Chapters are funny things.
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2:30Chris StewartHOST
In many senses, they're necessary, useful writing contrivances that help to break a story into useful and more easily digestible parts.
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7:52Chris StewartHOST
As a result, no formal agreement was reached, though negotiations brought a short truce.
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7:58Chris StewartHOST
Tellingly, and somewhat ironically, these negotiations did serve to inflame Chinese feelings about any further diplomatic settlement with the Manchus.
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8:06Chris StewartHOST
By drawing parallels to the disastrous outcome of Song negotiations with the Jurchens prior to their founding of the Jin Dynasty in the 12th century, which, again, were the direct ancestors of the contemporary Manchu threat, opponents to peace negotiations with the Manchus were able to turn public opinion against the idea of making the same quote-unquote mistake again and harden their hearts against the idea of anything except a total military solution.
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8:31Chris StewartHOST
That idea served Manchu interests just fine, because they were, at least for now, far more interested in just kind of letting the Chinese stew in their own problem sauce, while they focused on issues a bit closer to home.
Bonus - Mongol 7: The Punishment of God
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4:15Chris StewartHOST
Genghis, great khan of the Mongol nation, had been away from his home for too long.
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4:21Chris StewartHOST
For five years of near-continuous campaigning, the sovereign of the steppe had made war south of the Gobi and laid the once-proud Jurchen people and their so-called Golden Jin Empire low, raising their capital at Zhongdu to the ground, slaughtering its inhabitants, and pillaging the southlands for all the wealth the Mongols could possibly carry.
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4:41Chris StewartHOST
Thus it was that in early twelve fifteen, the great khan left the further reduction of the Jin to his trusted and capable general, Mukhali, and set out once again for the waters of Dolon Nor, to wait for the Gobi to become passable and the way back home to Mongolia made open.
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4:56Chris StewartHOST
These southern lands and its people were rich and soft, but their ways were strange to the point of alien for the Mongols, and the climate ill-suited them.
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5:05Chris StewartHOST
Before setting out from the ruins of the Jin Empire, the Mongols had one final punishment to dole out to the defeated Jurchen and their subjects.
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5:13Chris StewartHOST
In their campaigns back and forth across this land, they had been repeatedly slowed down and otherwise annoyed by many of the changes these southerners had made to their natural environment.
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5:22Chris StewartHOST
The plowed fields made horses and deer movement through them slower and more arduous, as did the stone walls and deep canals and waterways that crisscrossed the landscape.
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5:31Chris StewartHOST
Should Genghis ever need to send his armies down here again to remind the Jurchen of whom they pledged to serve, he didn't want any of that standing in his men's way ever again.
Bonus - Mongol 6: Agent of Chaos
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7:20Chris StewartHOST
But first things first, the jinn.
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7:24Chris StewartHOST
Jurchens And likewise, such information had certainly reached the Mongol Khan, if in abrogated form, intelligence that undoubtedly factored into his decision to strike when and where he did in 1210.
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7:57Chris StewartHOST
Crossing the Gobi was an arduous prospect for even people as hardy and desert-prepared as the Mongols.
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8:03Chris StewartHOST
And doing so at all, much less in force and preparing for a large-scale fight on the far side, was something virtually no one could have hoped to pull off.
#255 - Ming 39: It's the End of the World As We Know It
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20:23Chris StewartHOST
As such, though the Chinese populace suffered greatly from the plagues ripping through their towns and cities in the 1630s and 40s, they were able to bear the costs of the infection far better than their Manchurian counterparts.
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20:34Chris StewartHOST
From Brooke, quote, The Jurchen slash Manchus had a particular dread of this disease and were so anxious to avoid coming into contact with infected people that at several key moments in their military incursions throughout the 1630s, they fell back from an area in which contagion had been reported.
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20:50Chris StewartHOST
Fear of smallpox was partly what ended Hong Taiji's foray into the North China Plain in 1629-30, end quote.
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20:57Chris StewartHOST
In 1639, an outbreak occurred in Shandong at such a scale that it convinced the Manchus to completely cancel that winter's scheduled raid into northern China.
#251 - Ming 36: The Final Showdown
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18:16Chris StewartHOST
Several weeks after that, he entered Jielin in triumph.
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18:19Chris StewartHOST
The remaining Jurchen tribes were annexed.
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18:21Chris StewartHOST
Beijing finally had to order the arrest of Yang Hao.
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18:25Chris StewartHOST
The subsequent death sentence hung over his head for over a decade, and he finally met the executioner's sword only in sixteen twenty-nine.
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