Julius and Ethel Rosenberg

So, um, we got a question here.

Um, what was the deal with the Rosenbergs? You said you'd talk about them in one episode, but never got around to it.

Oh, I totally forgot about that.

Yeah.

Um, no, we can, um...

I've thought about having, like, just a, a dedicated, like, atomic age episode, you know, like, beginning with, um, the proliferation of the bomb in 1949, '48, '49, you know, going through the, the early Cold War and, um, the new look and, and, you know, kind of when, when, when every- everybody in the national security apparatus had, like, you know, atomic weapons on the brain, like, through, you know, detente and then finally SDI.

The Rosenbergs are basically what they appeared to be.

Um, I think, uh, I certainly don't-- I-- they certainly should have been executed.

And, and it was sad.

No ghastly plume of smoke though, like Ethel Rosenberg's had when she was, uh, killed in the electric chair, which is funnier, uh, than lethal injection, let's be honest.

And, uh, and now this lady, I guess she's fine.

And you remember, she also didn't wanna have a last meal of any kind.

And, and, uh, the, the, there were witnesses.

There are always witnesses to executions.

I played audio yesterday of the Ethel Rosenberg execution, uh, a witness there who described the ghastly plume of smoke, um, rising from her head because she was in the electric chair.

And I think the electric chair, Gary, uh, usually worked.

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For Ethel Rosenberg's execution for treason, the witness reporter wrote, "A ghastly plume of smoke rose from her head and wafted towards the skylight." Why didn't Tennessee use carbon monoxide to finish the job last night?

Some- somebody sent a text that tried to explain what, um...

And maybe, maybe it was the person list- left the talkback, that it was, uh...

Thank you.

For Ethel Rosenberg's execution for treason...

The witness reporter wrote, a ghastly plume of smoke rose from her head and wafted towards the skylight.

Why didn't Tennessee use carbon monoxide to finish the job last night?

And this woman, see, it's a woman that's gonna be executed, and that makes it a first.

They should send John King down there because, you know, she's not gonna become governor, but she is going to become crispy toast, you know, like, um, uh, like Ethel Rosenberg.

It's kinda like an...

I don't know if she's getting the, uh, the electric chair like Ethel Rosenberg did with a ghastly plume of smoke billowing from her head, but, but it's kind of exciting and CNN should be down there.

Uh, if they are, they're gonna be on the side of the murderer lady bec- uh, and it's, and it's a lady.

Now listen to this 'cause this is, this is important.

Plus, we, we don't really know wha- what is this spying for? What kind of information could Abel conceivably get that isn't in the New York Times? You know what I mean? [laughs]

Well, I would suggest the way I read that is that ... 'Cause at one point after Donovan has taken the case, um, there is mention of the Rosenbergs who, you know, were passing, um, secrets in that regard.

Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Good.