Julie Williams

And in No Springtime, it seems like Kiva was probably singing Joy Oladokun's part.

Yes, Kiva singing both Joy Oladokun and Julie Williams parts really, interspersed in and out.

So how did all of those, were they already part of this collective?

Yes, so not all of them necessarily toured with me, but I would say, I would clarify that in my mind, spiritually, the Rainbow Coalition is really any human that believes in our intrinsic equal worth and value.

Rubberneckin' on the highway wreck, then you see your own body lying on the ground

No Springtime featuring Joy Oladokun and Julie Williams, and that's on the new album, In the Hour of Chaos, the third solo record from my dear Allison Russell, our guest today on Sheroes, and I'm Carmel Holt.

Feels so weird to say your third solo record 'cause I've-

I know