Julie Gardner

That's so funny.

Anyway, I think when you see the trailer for The Altruist, which I'm probably not going to watch in full, you'll get the Inez Stettman comparison to Julie Gardner's Caroline Ellison, SBF's compatriot.

You can still razz Inez with this.

Thank you, Kyle.

Um, he is worried that the BBC are going to turn it either into cheap late night fair on BBC two, or it's going to be, uh, CBBC production and have absolutely no money behind it.

Um, Then Julie Gardner comes on board.

We're a

multi-million pound Disney co-production.

Careful what you wish

for.

So yeah, then Julie Gardner is asked to produce it, make it in Cardiff.

She basically says, you worry about making the show, I'll handle all the compliance and the meetings with the BBC.

So if you didn't already know, unfortunately, that TARDIS was disassembled, I think, back in July.

It was either Julie Gardner or Jay Trantracar, I can't remember which one of them, posted on their Instagram, and I just came across it at one point and forgot to bring up the podcast, so I apologise for that, that they took, like, the last picture in the TARDIS before it was disassembled.

So it was taken down months ago, but it seems that they had some leftover parts, and the roundels, the circles, obviously, all around the TARDIS, were being put up on Prop Store to be purchased, and you could get one of them for, I think, just shy of £400.00, But it was just the circular bit, there was no bulb in it, and there was no, like, square rectangular plate around it that you would see, like, you know, doused around the title.

It was just that piece of it.

I had a wonderful time on it.

And one of the executive producers of that show was Julie Gardner.

Ah.

So I think there was a chance going, oh, I've worked with Kai.

I do feel that he owes the general audience, the dedicated audience, and his colleagues more of an explanation.

And I've wondered, given the tone and some of the things that Billie said there about it's had a rough time lately, maybe she has had conversations with Russell or Julie Gardner or somebody at Bad Wolf in the time in between.

I don't know.

I, I think we'll probably never really know that.

Yeah.

And this thing on the cover of DWM, Russell T. Davis and Julie Gardner on 20 Years of Torchwood.

Yeah.

Okay.

We just...

When, when we, when they said, when the BBC said yes, the easiest pitch in the history of television, Julie Gardner, "Modern Sherlock Holmes." "Yes," she said, and that was that.

Uh, but we, so we, we had the last pot of money for the year.

We made it, and then when it was then commissioned properly, as th- and we were in a, we were in a script meeting on possibly the read-through of Victory of the Daleks-

Okay.

So our head of drama, Julie Gardner, was told, and she was not allowed to tell anyone, uh, for security reasons, which kind of makes sense.

And, um, so the only person she could tell was me.

So in the middle of a shoot, she said, "You've got to invent a scene set in Swansea-