Um, maybe let's start with a sort of an origin story that has brought you to be this, this, uh, confident hot takes guy that we see before us today.

Yeah.

Uh, a-absolutely.

Um, so interestingly enough, uh, my background, I think to, to my advantage in, in a lot of ways, doesn't come from the, the staffing and, and recruiting world.

I think a lot of recruiters roll their eyes, right, when they hear that, um, and they go, "Oh, like, how could you understand our business that we've been doing for, you know, for so long?" Uh, but I- I mean, uh, the way that I look at it is, you know, just my background gave me like a different lens on things and a unique perspective that allowed me-- that I think was a really good fit for the problem that we're trying to solve.

Um, and so I, not coming from staffing and recruiting, I've been in startups pretty much my entire career for over a decade, uh, on the growth side of things.

Um- E- everything from, like, lead generation, uh, demand generation to, like, product marketing.

Yep.