Julian Bond

And I was up there with some wonderful people.

Julian Bond was there.

Colin Powell, and just a lot of my friend Harold Holzer, just a lot of wonderful folks.

Anyway.

No, I grew up in Atlanta.

I was about to say I was really familiar with the, uh, little church that Martin Luther King started in and saw that whole thing go down with SNCC and, uh, Julian Bond and everybody.

And Core- Corrine, Coretta, his wife, uh, uh-

Wow

Completely.

And nobody's gonna confuse Barack Obama with Stokely Carmichael or Julian Bond.

They're just not.

And I hear you-

the full understanding that other people won't.

But I mean, my God, you know, one of the people that I feature in the book is Diane Nash, who was, you know, breaking open Nashville's segregated system when she's 18, 19 years old at Fisk, and one of the things that she does is, you know, when the Freedom Rides start and there's incredible violence towards people like John Lewis and Julian Bond, and all they're doing is trying to sit with their white compatriots on a bus or use-

Mm-hmm

... a snack bar in the South, you know, all hell breaks loose.

Well, for sure.

Yeah, we were founded in 1970 by veterans of the Civil Rights Movement, Julian Bond, John Lewis, and others.

And it really was a place to really think through after the civil rights struggle of the 1950s and 60s about what the future of the South was about.

And here we are 56 years later, and it's interesting about...

I think when I look back at college though, I got attracted a little bit too much to like some niche subjects, you know, some PhD students pet project.

And I do sort of regret that I didn't just go to like the main famous professor class, you know, like just like, There was a guy teaching civil rights history at University of Virginia, Julian Bond.

He was like part of the movement.

He was a famous professor.

Well, and that's what I

mean when I said at Douglas, we had to learn the code switch because you could be sitting in your classroom literally like I was next to Julian Bond's kids or, you know, pick a person.

Martin Luther King Jr.'s kids went to Douglas High School.

And when you're

You'll hear them say that, modern day lynching.

And it's coming out of this organization called Julian, right? This is another Harvard professor woman who's pulled this whole thing together but what's interesting about this julian organization named after julian bond it's political connections because you know it always i always have to put my magnifier glass on and see who's politically connected to this absolute jackassery bernie sanders Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Julian goes to Jill Jefferson, goes to Julian Bond, goes to John Lewis, goes to Barack Obama, NAACP, Legal Defense Fund.

Beyonce is mixed up in it some kind of way.

All of these people who are looking for something.

Tasia, Tasia, we mentioned, you know, hers was a homicide.

There was one in Georgia, Kyle Blessings, Kyle Basings, suicide.

Juliana, I'm not sure you pronounce her last name, Charlotte North Carolina, suicide.

But this is what was going on.

I actually did approach Julian Bond, then chairman of the NAACP board.

And he wrote back saying, some in person, but then wrote him a letter.

And he wrote back saying he doesn't know what, what help I expected.