Julia Shaw

And that's obviously very personal, whatever f- people feel is right for them.

But the, the, the term bisexual, um, as referenced by Julia Shaw in her book, um, she described it as, um, the attraction to same and other genders.

And it wasn't about binary or male and female.

It was about, you know, beyond that genders, is, because there aren't just two.

It was very funny.

I'm Dr. Julia Shaw, a criminal psychologist and author.

What I think is most fascinating about the Brian Cohey case is that he seems to have what are called callous unemotional traits.

CU traits, or callous unemotional traits, are when you don't feel the same feelings as other people and you don't have the same empathy.