Jules Daly

start to find your voice in that sense, do you think?

I don't know if I actually really, truly found it until I became a producer.

Really?

Yeah.

You know, sinner days, maybe.

Why do you think it was then that you found it?

I don't know, maybe I was just had a little bit more experience under my belt in life, you know? And I really actually, I actually had a voice as the producer from behind the camera, also being able to say, yes, this is really working or no, let's adjust.

Or, you know, this is the right cast member.

an expression.

I called a dear friend of mine who's a producer in LA, Jules Daly, and I said, Jules, I want to send you this article.

I'd love us to do something about this.

Yeah.