Judith Gillespie

I joined the assistant chief constable.

Judith Gillespie said to me, look, can you help with young Catholics? And I said, absolutely.

This is 2001, 2002.

I was at the forefront of it.

Yeah.

So one of the guests was called Judith Gillespie.

She's former Deputy Chief Constable of the PSNI, so Behaviour Shops.

She on episode 154 said, I always remember people who said words of encouragement to me and to them it meant nothing, but to me it meant the world.