Journal of Pain and Symptom Management

... what we needed to, to look at in terms of research.

And that's, that's a good JPSM paper if you can look it up.

That's the research agenda.

It's like it's still somewhat relevant.

We started measuring levels of palliative care development way back in, uh, it was 2000, around 2008 or so.

And, uh, with Car- with, um, uh, David Clark at Glasgow, Dumfries, and WHPCA and, and the university- Collaborated on to develop the first mapping levels of palliative care development.

And we published those in JPSM, um, several times.

We've had four sort of rounds.

And I think that's what traditional cultures, many of them have integrated psychedelics into their systems to help people with major transition points in life.

The retreat Sunil is describing is called Jamaica Grief Retreats, led by Dr. Dingo Spence, and the numbers he cited for retreats, 21 bereaved parents, come from a report published in the Journal of Pain and Symptom Management in 2022.

Jamaica doesn't schedule psilocybin the way the U.S. does, which is the only reason a group retreat like this can legally exist right now for grieving American parents.

There isn't a randomized control trial behind this yet.