Josie Duffy Rice

But that move, that spur of the moment decision, would end up being perhaps the worst choice they'd ever made.

I'm Josie Duffy Rice, and this is The Backfire Effect, episode two, The Hypnotist.

Over the past few years, I have spent many, many, many hours talking with Timejen.

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We're sitting at a table before one of the hearings, and he literally said to me, like, "Do you know where I can get some coke?" And I was like...

He's like, "You must be somebody who can call or something." And I was like, "What are you, nuts?"

The Backfire Effect is hosted and reported by me, Josie Duffy Rice.

Additional reporting by Joshua Sharp.

But that one moment would still haunt these witnesses, and many others in Port Huron, almost forty years later.

I'm Josie Duffy Rice, and this is The Backfire Effect, episode one, The Good Cop.

I'm not from Michigan.

I'm from Georgia.

The whole house was surrounded with guys in black and rifles.

I'm like, "Who is this? What are you doing in my home? Tell me who this is right now, or I'm calling the police." He goes, "Well, I am the police."

The Backfire Effect is hosted and reported by me, Josie Duffy Rice.

Additional reporting by Joshua Sharp.

But that one moment would still haunt these witnesses, and many others in Port Huron, almost 40 years later.

I'm Josie Duffy Rice, and this is The Backfire Effect, episode one, "The Good Cop." I'm not from Michigan.

I'm from Georgia.

I'm a journalist, and I used to be a lawyer, and in both careers, I focused almost exclusively on the criminal legal system.

The whole house was surrounded with guys in black and rifles.

I'm like, "Who is this? What are you doing in my home? Tell me who this is right now, or I'm calling the police." He goes, "Well, I am the police."

The Backfire Effect is hosted and reported by me, Josie Duffy Rice.

Additional reporting by Joshua Sharp.

But that one moment would still haunt these witnesses, and many others in Port Huron, almost 40 years later.

I'm Josie Duffy Rice, and this is The Backfire Effect, episode one, The Good Cop.

I'm not from Michigan.

I'm from Georgia.

I'm like, "Who is this? What are you doing in my home? Tell me who this is right now.

I'm calling the police." He goes, "Well, I am the police."

The Backfire Effect is hosted and reported by me, Josie Duffy Rice.

Additional reporting by Joshua Sharp.

But that one moment would still haunt these witnesses, and many others in Port Huron, almost 40 years later.

I'm Josie Duffy Rice, and this is The Backfire Effect, episode one, The Good Cop.

I'm not from Michigan.

I'm from Georgia.

The whole house was surrounded with guys in black and rifles.

I'm like, "Who is this? What are you doing in my home? Tell me who this is right now, or I'm calling the police." He goes, "Well, I am the police."

The Backfire Effect is hosted and reported by me, Josie Duffy Rice.

Additional reporting by Joshua Sharp.

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listeners, Josie Duffy Rice here.

I'm dropping into your feed today to bring you a preview of my new podcast, Examined, The Backfire Effect.

Nearly 40 years ago in the parking lot of a community college in Port Huron, Michigan, a student named Scott Macklem was shot dead in broad daylight.

But that one moment would still haunt these witnesses and many others in Port Huron.

Almost 40 years later.

I'm Josie Duffy Rice, and this is The Backfire Effect.

Episode 1, The Good Cop.

Almost 40 years later.

I'm Josie Duffy Rice, and this is The Backfire Effect.

Episode 1, The Good Cop.

The Backfire Effect I'm not from Michigan.

I'm calling the police.

He goes, well, I am the police.

The Backfire Effect is hosted and reported by me, Josie Duffy Rice.

Additional reporting by Joshua Sharp.

He had been nowhere near the scene of the crime, and there were multiple eyewitnesses who could prove it.

In The Backfire Effect, the host, Josie Duffy Rice, tells the story of this strange and complicated man who has now been in prison for over four decades for reasons that get more complicated the closer you look.

Here is episode one.

You can find more episodes of Examined: The Backfire Effect wherever you listen to podcasts.

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But that one moment would still haunt these witnesses, and many others in Port Huron, almost 40 years later.

I'm Josie Duffy Rice, and this is The Backfire Effect, episode one, The Good Cop.

I'm not from Michigan.