Joshua Harris

I should have investigated a bit.

I think I read a little more of Josh Harris's book, I Kissed Dating Goodbye.

Yeah.

And these were some of the popular books that were coming out, uh, what was it? 20 years ago.

I read a ton of...

Was it, like, Joshua Harris?

Yes.

That book.

Yeah, he-

He, I think he DM'd me, um, about the daddy God stuff, and I thought that was so funny.

But I read the Joshua Harris book.

I read...

So I was really just really smack dab in the middle of you know, um, purity culture.

I also have, this isn't from home, but I thrifted this Joshua Harris book, boy meets girl.

Um, and I definitely read I kiss dating goodbye.

Um, another prop I brought, this is a, my future husband journal, which I started when I was 17 and I filled it.

And so, uh, uh, you know, they, we get grouped together with that.

So part of this kind of, you know, I was, I guess I grew up in the, um, you know, Josh Harris subculture, you know, this kind of, uh, thing before his, uh, I kiss dating goodbye days.

I was there early on.

So, okay.

I grew up deep inside evangelical world in Kansas.

And so my first run into all this was as like a teenager and all the Joshua Harris, I kissed, said goodbye.

So like the conversation about like a different way to be a man, like was seeded very early, but that like ruined me in my teenage years.

Like so much like self-hatred, so much like, oh, I've got to control this.

Let's see here.

Back when I was 16 in 1999, I worked for Joshua Harris and his father at a homeschool convention.

I worked for them the whole week selling I Kiss Dating Goodbye books, and they refused to pay me.

They're

Monty, if you're willing, will you please share with us what helped you work through the purity culture shame and allowed you to enjoy intimacy and other things? So that's kind of one of those questions there.

The guy that did the voice of Scooby-Doo passed away recently.

bummer that's a bummer my god coming from someone who grew up in the church Joshua Harris preached at thank you especially for the conversation beginning at 1830 where you guys talk about Andy's reaction to this made me tear up a bit watching the documentary was a mind fuck to get taken back to that time and place glad you enjoyed that Man, this guy cannot read with flow.

There it is.

I've heard it's like the old school.

Like that's the one that Joshua Harris read that I think his mom bought him.

And you've had you've had Joshua Harris on Heelish, right?

I have.

Yeah.

Right.

Like she was a mentor to Joshua Harris.

She was.

And she became very