Yeah.

And they are, you know, fully integrated into the party I have belonged to all my life, the Democrats, who I, I feel like I, I didn't leave the Democratic Party, they left me.

Um, in any event, um, and, and so what happens when there's a vacancy is that the county commissioners of the area then appoint, and that's what happened.

Wise was appointed, and he, uh, got 98% of the vote in the May primary, 'cause of course nobody ran against him, and he faces a Republican named Max Sherman, who is being slimed as much as possible, and who probably doesn't have much of a chance because the Democrats have gerrymandered so many of the districts.

But what is really disturbing is he gets $25,000 in something called a climate justice fellowship.

Now, I've always...

I know what justice fellowship mean.

Apparently not.

Like you, I'm a fan of the death penalty.

Yeah.

And I, I'm in favor of it.

You know, I'm in favor of it the way I support some other policies.

I, I don't think it's wonderful, but I think there are people for whom, um, there is really no other appropriate penalty.

And, you know, we...

And if...

... that is commonly used for this kinda thing and is commonly used for a lot of other things?

Like you, I'm a fan of the death penalty.

Yeah.

And I, I'm in favor of it.

You know, I'm in favor of it the way I [audio stutters] I don't think it's wonderful, but I think there are people for whom, um, there is really no other appropriate penalty.

And, you know, we...

And if...

I used to debate my father, who was a veteran of World War II, who, who was a liberal Democrat, and who said he was opposed.

... for a lot of other things?

Go

ahead.

The reason is that opponents of the death penalty have been consistently trying to make it impossible for the virtually 30 states that do have the death penalty to obtain pharmaceutical-grade pentobarbital, which, by the way, is used in every vet's office in America to euthanize our beloved pets.

So, in other words, most of us have experience with putting the end to the life of somebody we love.

Now, I'm sorry, but Christa Pike is not somebody we love.

So, number one, the opponents of death laymen, it's nearly impossible for corrections divisions to get the right kind of drugs.

And secondly, why does somebody have blown veins? They have blown veins because they've been injecting drugs for years and years.

Give my audience an idea of why you think that's the case, that the elites don't like it, but the general public does.

chief,

right? to include a police chief and a deputy DA.

But there are a couple things here.

One, it means they can't do it on the job or in their capacity as a government employee.

But most importantly, let's look what the law says they can't do.

They can't solicit money for public office.

They cannot promote or oppose the appointment, nomination, or election of a person to public office.

That's what the

Right.

Well, and originally we were going to talk about another scandal involving Greene, where it turns out that Greene and a bunch of other commissioners have been hoarding money and handing it out.

We know this has been going on for years, but it's getting worse.

We're now individual city councilors are giving away hundreds of thousands of tax dollars when the city is jammed up financially to nonprofits as a way of basically having no accountability.

So they get favors and get favors owed to them by special interest groups by giving away other people's money, taxpayers' money.

Except for one thing.

I

So they have given themselves packages of money to spend that are as big as the base amount that's given to every member of Congress.

What should we make of that?

Well, what we should make of it, many people will remember a movie, a play, very famous, 1957, called 12 Angry Men, starring Henry Fonda.

And it's been remade.

It's made in high school.

There's a set piece.

It can be done with 12 people in a room.

They now, by the way, call it 12 Angry People because it can't all be men.

And he actually made that motion, didn't he?

came,

is coming, with people who, as you point out, you really have to work at it to get in prison in Oregon.

Only one out of four go.

And generally, the only people going to prison are those who committed person crimes, meaning rape crimes.

armed robbery, assault, things that hurt people, not drugs, burglary, stolen property.

So what's happened is most of these people aren't in prison on one charge, they're in prison on multiple charges.

And often judges, particularly either in the same county or different county, give them what are called consecutive sentences, meaning one sentence is supposed to begin at the end of another.

Okay, but the bottom line is if they're now saying we miscalculated, we let some people go mistakenly, can they be sent back to prison?

Do you want to go to that instead?

Yeah, well, let's talk about that first.

I think it's not just a couple million.

It's almost $50 million, $49 million.

Lawsuits were filed by inmates in the Oregon State Penitentiary System, a couple dozen by families of inmates who had died, and then several more of people who had had COVID and got sick.

Now, these kind of lawsuits have been filed all over the country in about 35 states.

But in only two or three blue states have basically there been huge payouts.

But should somebody get a giant payout, especially when, as you point out, as a convicted criminal, even if they were relatively young, and I don't think most of the people who died in prison were relatively young, I think they tended to be older, just like most COVID victims were older, that their likelihood of making very much money after they got out of prison, if they ever got out of prison, was pretty low, right?

Longo alone murdered all four victims and dumped their bodies in the water.

He didn't like being tied down with his wife and three kids, and, and, and the solution for him was to just get rid of these three children and his wife and assume somebody else's identity.

Oregon District Attorney Josh Marquis.

Exactly how it happened, will we ever know? No, we won't, because it's coming from the lips of a liar.

Josh, welcome back.

Thank you.

And let's talk about Candace, the slug queen Avalos, a member of the ever bloated Portland City Council, I think, which has 13 members now.

Twelve.

Oh, I'm sorry, 12, plus the almost useless mayor.

And let's be clear, she got 10,000 votes.

to put her in that position.

A junket is where you just get to go on a trip and somebody else pays the time.

Josh, welcome back, and what should we make of, I think it was Judge Adrian Nelson's order, telling the state of Oregon to start releasing some very serious criminals?

Be concerned, be very concerned.

One of the problems is federal judges, even well-meaning ones, and I'm not sure Judge Brown is one of the well-meaning ones.

Nelson, I'm sorry.

She's a former public defender who got shot up to the Oregon Supreme Court and then by Joe Biden to the federal court.

And some might argue that she's not nearly as qualified as some of the others.

But that's a separate issue.

Right? Absolutely,

Would it be legal for any city or any state to tell ICE how they may equip their agents, whether it's body equipment or shields or, or face masks? Can, can a city or a state do that?

Generally, no.

And actually, the second highest court, the Ninth Circuit Court, which is this court right below the US Supreme Court, has repeatedly ruled that, um, that, that trying to t- for the mu- municipalities that are trying to get aroundWhat they don't like, which is generally, um, uh, customs and border agents or border patrol officers wearing masks and not carrying ID.

The- there's several problems with this.

One is, uh, even the Portland city attorney has a- advised the council, "Don't do this." And the reason is, they will lose.

The, the, the Ninth Circuit has repeatedly ruled on this issue.

In other words, it would be like giving, letting your client, in this case, which the city attorney of Portland won't do, do something that would allow them to get sued, because they know that they're probably going to lose.

Would you mind explaining to my audience how that works?

Would you mind making the case for my audience, is the Washington, D.C. Board of Professional Responsibility and the BAR, has it been used as a political weapon against conservatives and in favor of liberals?

I think it has, and I need to put this caveat on it.

I am a Democrat, as you mentioned.

I am no fan of Donald Trump.

I have a lot of complaints about him and the Justice Department.

But that doesn't change the fact that lawfare, which is a phrase that's becoming used where the bar is used as a political weapon, And it has been done by both sides, but I think it's extremely childish.

And what you're seeing, generally speaking, bar associations are run by predominantly liberal wings of the legal profession, whether that's Washington, D.C. or other places.

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aheadWell, okay, I, as, as a son of a Jew, this, this is, and, and as some of your listeners may know, um, my heritage, um, is that my father and his entire family were refugees from Nazi Germany.

My father fled when he was 12 years old.

My grandfather was imprisoned by the Gestapo, but managed to get out in 1934.

Not all of my family members made it.

Some of my father's uncles died in the concentration camps.

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Um, you know, that's so, that's just plain ridiculous.

I think that's perfectly good even though I know most woke fo- folks don't like it.

Well, the only alien, he's not, you know, it's not like from, you know, Area 51, but the guy is an a- an alien.

And, um, and DeScano was specifically warned by area police agencies, "This guy is super dangerous." But DeScano was so intent on, on basically carrying out this super woke agenda that the Soros people are pressing, that he refused to do anything about this guy, and then as you think pointed out, he exploded.

Now, what is interesting is that, and as you know, and some of your listeners know from hearing me, not a big fan of, of Trump, but one of his best appointments is a woman named Hareen Dillon, who is the Assistant Attorney General of the United States for civil rights.

And she is now going after this bad DA, uh, for some of these things, and is, uh, heading up a criminal investigation.

It's one of those times when I think the Trump administration is absolutely right to be doing what they're doing.

And, uh, and she had a green card, but she told me on any number of occasions, "Boy, if I ever break the law, I can lose my green card altogether." But they've made it illegal for a DA to sit there and say, "Well, I would charge this person with the crime they appear to be guilty of, but if I do that, it will have an effect on their immigration status." It's literally illegal to consider the immigration consequences, isn't it?

Well, it is, and particularly in blue states.

And what should we make of this, I guess, endeavor by the U.S. Department of Justice to take on one of the most aggressive new death penalty plans in decades?

Well, you and I disagree about President Trump.

I would argue this is one of the times like a broken watch when he's right.

At least two times, you would argue much more often.

But Trump and the Justice Department are suggesting that federal death row and let's be clear, federal death rows.

generally before President Biden gutted it, usually only has about 35 to 50 inmates on it.

So about the number of inmates that were on Oregon's death row before clueless Kate Brown pretty much vacated it with mass commutations.

Was any one of them even arguably a good call to commute the sentence and spare the person the death penalty?