Mm-hmm

... and this is where your immune system is tacked, you're building up these immuno se- senescent cells, and our immune system's sick.

I, I, I think that when, when I, when I, in order to address that and, and find that and find the cause of that...

Let me, let me go to the blood work thing first.

You and I have both experienced this.

I have had thousands of people come into me saying, "I feel awful, but my blood work is normal."

Mm-hmm.

You know, Lyme overcame your bo- You know, this is years ago.

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In ancient Chinese medicine, different emotions affect different organ systems.

And so three, I want to hit on number one, you mentioned fear.

Okay.

Fear affects the adrenals, right? We know this, right? It puts our body in a fight or flight state.

Your body produces more cortisol.

What happens when cortisol is up, your melatonin never gets very high at night.

But I wanted to ask, how do you then process your emotions and feelings? Like, do you go to therapy? Do you talk with your wife? Do you take a walk? Like, if you ever have grief or fear coming up, what do you do with it?

Yeah.

I think the one that I tend to have a l- a lot of people do, uh, up there pretty frequently the most, with almost everybody benefits from, is probably a PBM red light better panel.

I mean, getting, getting red light, uh, supports mito- mitochondrial health, cellular energy.

I think most people probably need a much higher dose than what they're getting with one of those panels or not.

They could probably do 30 or 40 or f- 45 minutes in front of it rather than a shorter period of time bec- Uh, so, so I think that that is a really phenomenal type of therapy.

Um, after that, I would say, uh, it's so hard for me to kind of say just what my favorites are.

We, we have something in our practice called a Hockett, which is- ... a sauna where your full body's enclosed in a sauna, and your body gets a little bit warmer than in a sauna, and you're getting transdermal ozone while you're doing it, and you're getting PEMF, you're getting, like, eight different therapies at once.

Do you agree with that? And if so, how has God foundationally helped you to become the healthiest that you can be?

Yes.

And so all that being said, I think we're going to continue to see them pass through, become legalized.

Because listen, there's a choice.

Here's what I would say.

So I recently saw on Instagram, somebody post, this is a doctor who, you know, his name was discredited.

He was found in the Epstein files.

People used to listen to him and now many less are because there's just so many character falls and issues there.

But I want to know from you

[laughs]

And so all that being said, I think they're, I think we're gonna continue to see them pass through, become legalized.

'Cause, 'cause listen, there, there's a choice.

So I recently saw on Instagram somebody post, this is a doctor who, you know, his name was discredited.

He was found in the Epstein files.

People used to listen to him and now m- many less are because there's just so many character flaws and issues there.

But, but he came out and, and [laughs] and did this whole thing on GLP-1s are safe.

Yeah.

What's your view on

peptides? One, I love peptides.

I think they're wonderful.

I think they're a big part of the future of medicine.

I think that they're ancient in nature.

I mean, where do peptides come from? A lot of times when we talk about peptides, they're this sort of magical scientific discovery.

Listen, you've heard of collagen peptides.

split second yeah they were here one second then gone the next can you take us back to that like what what happened there and kind of the aftermath of what you kind of learned

Mm

... as a soil-based probiotic, but it's a, a, a probiotic that's transient, that clears out some of the damaging microbes that can live in our, in our guts.

And so I do think that that's good.

And then sauerkraut and kimchi and, and other fermented foods also can be really good.

You know, coconut yogurt, raw organic grass-fed A2 yogurts and kefirs I think are great as well.

So getting more of this good bacteria.

And, and, and one of the things, Dave, I know I've been finding as I've really studied longevity is, is that the gut microbiome just keeps coming up.

Mm.

And I want to talk about informed consent quickly, because that has such a huge impact on informed consent to where as a patient, I feel like, how do I know I'm getting both the good and the negative of these treatments that they're kind of pushing on us, especially through vaccines?

Yeah, well, I think the first thing that's incredibly important here is the reality that we deserve to know if there's any risk whatsoever.

And of all things in terms of we think of what's the most important is a woman that's pregnant.

I mean, when I look at our current medical system right now, tend to be so cautious with women that are pregnant as we should be right i mean like i'll give an example my wife uh anytime she's pregnant she's typically if she's dealing with morning sickness or nausea or something else she's like what can i take and i'm like nothing you know no i mean we ever do ginger tea for the most part and some of those sort of things but i mean when you look at the list of herbals that are typically approved it's like cinnamon and ginger It's a very, very narrow list, so we're careful there.

And the thing is, herbs are much, much safer than we know Tylenol and acetaminophen.

I mean, we saw that come out and that increasing the risk potentially of autism because it decreases glutathione in the body, the body's master antioxidant protection there.

But that just came out.

yeah

Yeah.

That is found in your own stomach acid and your gastric lining.

That's naturally occurring.

TB-500, which is in that same stack, that's found in your thymus gland.

That's naturally occurring.

Um, and so, so my point is, is that a lot of these peptides are naturally found in organs, and you're, you naturally get some.

And, and here's another thing I would say.

To really know what you need and to not be flaky about.

So tell me what you experienced during your time in Puerto Rico, because as your close friend, it was anything but paradise.

Yeah, it actually was.

And I would say it was the lowest part of my life.

Wow.

You know, so we moved to Puerto Rico and we were there for a few months.

And again, we were living between there still in Nashville.

But I went in and I'd injured my back about, how don't know, about maybe seven years prior.

Don't you ask God why?

Mm-hmm

...

I think that is the greatest therapy for supporting, uh, you know, in, in anti-cancer therapy.

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Yeah.

Yeah.

So they're really both in today's medical science and in nearly 4,000 years of Ayurveda and Chinese medicine, they talk about this.

And today's science, it never goes very deep.

Our science today is very actually superficial in what it looks at.

So they'll kind of lump it in with stress.

But there are studies that show that stress... increases your likelihood of getting a number of conditions, but also a cold and flu and being susceptible to viruses.

But I wanted to ask, how do you then process your emotions and feelings? Do you go to therapy? Do you talk with your wife? Do you take a walk? If you ever have grief or fear coming up, what do you do with it?

Okay.

You know, I saw this post recently by somebody who, uh, I wanna say worships science.

And he said, you know, "It's due to science that over the past 100 years our lifespan has increased so much." And it was so interesting because when...

A lot of people don't realize this, I know you do, but probably the biggest thing that's increased lifespan historically is improved sanitation.

And the Bible really teaches sanitation better than any other book out there today.

And so it's so interesting that people will give science the credit, which is really a methodology.

It's not even a, it's a, the system that's worshiped.

Yeah.

We didn't learn a whole lot about it, um, but now we're seeing it all the time.

Yeah, I mean, I would say it's one of the most common c- conditions, if not the most common hormonal condition outside of insulin resistance that I see with patients that are women.

And, you know, most doctors today, both conventional but even natural, aren't getting to the root cause, and I really believe a big part of it starts with focusing on cellular healing.

Now, if somebody goes into their conventional doctor today, what most doctors doThey look at the blood work, and almost no matter what, they prescribe a drug called T4 or levothyroxine or Synthroid.

I mean, that, that, that's what they put them on.

But the reality is, and a lot of people don't know this, the active form of thyroid hormone that most women need to feel good and function well is T3, and that T3 conversion happens in 80% is the liver, 20% is the gut.

So when doctors are, when p- when a woman goes in with a hypothyroidism or Hashimoto's, it's almost never the thyroid.

Mm

RFK was trying to push forward.

Yeah, so right now what the laws are is you can pull your own bone marrow, which is where your stem cells are.

The thing I don't love about that, I just want to say— The negative of that is you're pulling it from yourself and your bone marrow also creates immune cells, so your immune system gets down for a little bit and your blood volume gets down a little bit.

So there are mild side effects.

Now listen, if you have tore your ACL or you've got major arthritis and it's keeping you from being active, I think pulling your own bone marrow is fine because you're gonna be able to be so much more active and out of pain, so then cortisol is gonna drop, so the benefits make sense.

Now today, if you go to certain other countries, and here we're starting to get access to this, you can, like a woman can give birth and donate or get paid for her giving the umbilical cord, what we might discard at times, the umbilical cord, it's incredibly high in stem cells, okay? So you can take umbilical cord tissue, pull stem cells from it, and what stem cells are is they are cells that can become anything.

So if you take those cells and inject them in your knee and you have a partially torn meniscus, it can actually go and become that tissue that's missing and fully heal, or in most cases, partially heal the meniscus or an injury you might have and help it restore functions.

When you look at the role faith and even just belief in a higher power plays in the healing experience, what are the best tips you can give somebody if maybe they're not yet accessing their faith, they don't believe, and they're currently sick? How can you use one to support your healing?

Right.

And one of those things was prayer, along with some other ideas and advice from the Bible.

And so we wrote the book, The Biblio Diet, because we just really believe that the Bible has the greatest wisdom for health and healing, and we wanted to hi- And by the way, a lot of it flies in the face of the modern world.

[laughs] I mean, the Bible talks about, you know, uh, eat red meat.

Eat, do salt.

Have honey.Consume dairy, butter.

You know, so, so, so the Bible flies in the...

That's right.

That was part of the guidelines.

Yeah, it's wild.

It's crazy.

So when you look at it, you'll see things on there.

Basically, it's all real food.

It's very protein and fat heavy up top.

Now, you have vegetables in there in that top ranking as well, kind of the second tier there.

And so I think that's a whole other conversation, but I think that there is a conversation here to be made about if we're making bread in the way that God intended, I would assume it's probably going to be more of a health food.

I know Josh has some that he could also add to as well.

Well, you know, I think there's also the elements of, you know, when Moses was laying down these food laws of here's, you know, eat this, not that, right? So do this instead.

I think there are those.

One question I like to pose is, what if Moses was here today? What would make the food list and what would not make the food list? We've taken a lot of foods that we might call God foods or foods that sort of naturally were around since early on in human history that we've hybridized or we've modified in some way even genetically that's very different than what we consume today.

And probably the two most prominent ones I could mention would be dairy and grains, like wheat in particular.

You know, when you look at dairy, you know, Jordan here literally cured ulcerative colitis and Crohn's disease, and the number one food he ate was goat's milk kefir, right? It was raw, it was a raw dairy product that helped him cure this incurable disease, as many doctors told him.

Um, and so, you know, when you're comparing the dairy of the Bible, this raw organic A2, those genetics are very important.

So what are your thoughts on that?

Mm-hmm.

It's your emotional health, your mental health, your spiritual health, your connection with God, your connection with others.

I mean, the Bible alludes as to in lo- you know, love God, love your neighbor, and, and, and then there are other areas where it says like, like love the planet, right? So I think having these deep, intimate relationships with God, with others, with the planet, that-...

philosophically and in reality is gonna lead to the greatest level of health.

And so, and this is something a lot of people wanna skip over.

You know, I know in taking care of tens of thousands of patients in my lifetime, one of the greatest things I see making people sick today is they'll have had childhood trauma and they will not have dealt with it.

Hm.

...

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... um, was diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome, so she was just tired all the time, hypothyroidism, autoimmune disease.

She got put on antidepressants and antianxiety drugs.

So my mom growing up was always very, very sick.

And then I was about to graduate and open up a functional medicine clinic in Nashville, and this is many years later, and I get a call from my mom just in tears on the phone.

And she said, "Josh, I've just been diagnosed with cancer again on my lung." And she said, "What do I do?" And I said, "I'll be home," flew from Florida back to Ohio, where I grew up, and the first thing we did is we just got down on our hands and knees and just prayed and just said, "Lord, we need you.

You know, we need your guidance." And we just both fe- felt very led to take care of her all naturally.

Yeah.

So, share with me for a second, first of all, in terms of health, what should they do if they're listening to this and they wanna feel better?

I think a few things.

One, have a plan.

And also know that you're a unique individual.

I think that's an important concept and I'll talk about that more at the end.

But, but I would say start with diet.

Even just start with breakfast.

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