Joseph diGenova

I wonder if there's anything we can take, the good guys can take from that playbook.

Joe DiGenova, the wise man, the one-time U.S. attorney for Washington, D.C., made international headlines during the Reagan administration.

More recently, served in the Trump Department of Justice doing the right thing.

And now he's with us once again, Joe DiGenova.

Man, I'm still trying to make sense of everything that went down last week.

How are you? I'm doing fine.

I found that incredibly disrespectful.

If it were on the front page of the New York Times, he would have had a different tone.

This past April, a lead national security prosecutor on the John Brennan investigation, he was replaced after raising questions about the strength of the case.

Then Joseph DiGenova took over and DiGenova resigned in September without bringing a single criminal charge.

So Here's where I'm going to land on this.

And some of you will want to shut off the radio after this because if there's a case, you got to bring it.

It was crickets.

So what is even happening there? Remember Joe DiGenova was a part of that case.

He left as a part of that case.

And Julie Kelly, the great Julie Kelly, we like saying the great, concluded this when she saw the Jason Quinones news this Friday.

It also includes John Eisenberg, who was the head of the National Security Division.

And then finally, it includes, oh gosh, Jason Redding Quinonez, the top prosecutor in the Southern District of Florida, who importantly is the prosecutor whose office was overseeing the grand conspiracy case, and who, according to reporting by the New York Times and other outlets, there had been a lot of pressure on his office in recent weeks, especially with there being other departures by Joe DiGenova and Kurt Olson, a lot of kind of disarray within the grand conspiracy case that seems to have been stalled now.

And so the question I think here, Ben, is like, what does all of this signal? Is there a pattern here? Are there individual reasons? It's not entirely clear whether some of these folks might have had, you know, their own discreet reasons for leaving the Justice Department.

But there is some reporting, at least with respect to Harmeet Dhillon and Jason Redding Quinonez, that maybe they were kind of asked to leave or it was suggested that it was time to go.

I would more expect it to be, all right, we're continuing just to take charge from D.C. and do what the president wants us to do.

But I also think that the grand conspiracy... as a grand conspiracy has sort of imploded.

I would be surprised if we saw it come back as this tightly knit together case, like the kind that Joe DiGenova was attempting to pursue, where he did want it actually to be a grand conspiracy tied up with a bow on top.

In the end, I would think that, you know, we're going to continue if we see indictments to see individual indictments that are sort of adjacent to this or at least are focusing on the bad actors.

would have lost also.

Darlene, I did that in honor of... a man named Lindsay, who was a friend of mine, and she fought hard.

She fought hard.

She really did.

They're going to print even more money and try to spend even more money.

We now have a resignation, by the way.

You'll remember our friend Joe DiGenova as our legal analyst until he had to take a leave to go work on the grand conspiracy investigation with the grand jury in the Southern District of Florida.

He stepped down a couple of months ago.

It's just been going on for years and years.

Before this guy, Jason Quinonez, stepped away, you had G, what was his name, Joe DiGenova.

That was the guy who walked away a couple months ago because he said that they were mismanaging the investigation.

And there was another guy whose name was Kurt Olson.