Joseph B. Fuller
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Jun 15, 2026
It's a tough time to break into cybersecurity
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Until a few years ago, hiring was on a roll, but workers weren't the only ones who got the message, says Joseph Fuller at Harvard Business School.

Joseph FullerGUEST
If you are an innovative company, you're looking out there and saying, you know what's worth a lot of money? Tools that mean companies don't have to hire so many cybertechs.
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AI is increasingly taking over the routine tasks that junior workers once handled, like monitoring systems for anomalies and deciding which ones to prioritize for response.
It's a tough time to break into cybersecurity
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Until a few years ago, hiring was on a roll, but workers weren't the only ones who got the message, says Joseph Fuller at Harvard Business School.

Joseph FullerGUEST
If you are an innovative company, you're looking out there and saying, you know what's worth a lot of money? Tools that mean companies don't have to hire so many cybertechs.
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AI is increasingly taking over the routine tasks that junior workers once handled, like monitoring systems for anomalies and deciding which ones to prioritize for response.
Compilation Episode (Part 5): Will AI Take My Job?
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Joe FullerGUEST
Uh, that co- companies don't have any experience in adopting general purpose technologies.
Joe FullerGUEST
They, they've, they haven't-- n- no one here lived through moving from steam power to electricity, and very few senior management teams really, uh, were senior leaders during the launch of the internet, which is probably the closest analogy, although I think the real innovation at that period of time that, uh, caused me to sit up and take notice about the internet was when the Mosaic browser that, that could move th-the internet from alphanumeric only to have images and photography, and that was just my jaw dropped, and I said, "The world's gonna change now." Um, what-- but so what companies have been doing too much is saying, "How do I append AI, particularly generative AI, to my existing process?" Almost like it's just another big new SaaS system.
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5:08Chris LinnaneHOST
And when they're putting together through successful experiments, um, and pushing, what part of the org chart is the pressure hitting the most?
Joe FullerGUEST
Right now, it's hitting entry-level and lower managerial jobs, and the reason for that is those jobs often have, um, tasks that are heavily what I'm gonna call rules-based.
Joe FullerGUEST
If you're, you get hired out, out of an undergraduate business program to be a credit analyst at a bank or, or for a company that does what's called vendor financing, I will lend my customer the money to buy my goods.
Compilation Episode (Part 4): How Mid-Career Professionals Can Lead and Grow With AI
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18:16Jake CookGUEST
The context could be anything from, you know, what are the regulations related to
Joe FullerGUEST
topersonal health records and because you're involved in health benefits in your employer to how does the market for riding mowers work to, uh, what's a great...
Joe FullerGUEST
What would have been historically successful promotions for, um, you know, selling the seasonal product, barbecues, whatever.
Joe FullerGUEST
That's all-- You, you have a, a understanding, what I'm gonna describe as you, you have s-set of heuristics which allow you to have a pretty good grasp of the way your world works, and that's really valuable.
Joe FullerGUEST
You actually have got a very, very valuable currency in that contextual knowledge.
Joe FullerGUEST
The second thing is to accept that the world is gonna change at a rate that is a little bit roller...
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19:40speaker_5UNKNOWN
Me neither.
Joe Fuller on AI and Rethinking Work
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34:27speaker_3HOST
Mm-hmm.
Joe FullerGUEST
In fact, we've already seen between 2000 and 2025, a significant, uh, acceleration in the number of companies saying, "I can't find the skills I need," just in that quarter century.
Joe FullerGUEST
And the, the consequence of that is that if t- to evaluate somebody's fitness for the role, I'm gonna kinda wanna see 'em in it.
Joe FullerGUEST
And rather than relying on higher ed to just drop ship me someone I can c- mold into what I need, particularly as these social skills become more integral to the value proposition, you, you-- I think you'll find progressive companies are doing things companies currently don't do.
Joe FullerGUEST
I've, I've been advising a company about, uh, that, that's in an industry where s- the supply of, of, it's kind of a technical skill, the supply of, of graduates is shrinking even though demand for the service remains healthy.
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Now, five years from now, what do you hope companies have changed most about how they build careers?