Joseph A. Hodges

There was nobody else, especially the 24 Podcast.

The most recent iteration of the 24 Podcast, nobody does a show like the show that Joseph and I do, and I'm not tooting my own horn.

It's a monumental mountain of work.

[laughs] I mean, like, seriously, when I first started meeting with Joseph Hodges, the production designer from 24, and I said, "Hey, we're gonna meet weekly, and we're gonna do a 24 Podcast." He says, "Oh, I'd love that.

That'd be great, mate." And so we did, and what I didn't realize was that the work that I was doing in one week just watching a television show, not speaking with someone that can speak for a couple of hours at a time, I had no i- no idea what kind of a monster I had created.

Uh, and I'm, I'm totally appreciative of the monster because it's, it, again, it's unlike anything else that you'll ever go and see, but all of those things were just divined by me.