JordanCon

And then down to like what I've actually been to, which is WatCon, which is a little spinoff from a convention that got put together right after Robert Jordan died that was like Wheel of Time people.

And that was called JordanCon.

And that was really popular with the Wheel of Time community for a really long time.

And it still is.

Oh, wow! So, like, he has this very cool cape that a friend made for him, like, in the first year of him having the podcast.

And so he's always worn that every time he goes to events.

Like, WatCon was kind of bits of our SpoilerCon thing, and people from JordanCon being like, ah, let's do another thing in Ohio.

And again, that's just, like, too 200 not even people but they've also gotten like actors from the TV show to come and hang out sure and do discussions and eat meals with people and it's just it's a chance to hang out with your family in costume and just be super nerds and