
Jordan Fleming
Co-Founder and Chairman of smrtPhone, a real estate investing phone/communications platform, and author of "The AI Labor Architecture" book on AI as labor in business.
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Aug 25, 2026
TGL EP 295 - Question and Answer with Arise Manufacturing
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Joel ParkHOST
Like, maybe staccatos, but then, well, you don't have to comment, but Kimber originally shipped with the CHP plate, which was clearly not, I mean, everyone, it's pretty much established they're very inferior at this point, because I've seen a bunch of them, the thing I'm talking about, where the screws, like, you know, they shear off, and the plate and the optic will be one piece, but then I, like, maybe the the thread depth isn't deep enough or maybe it's the diameter of screws like what's the story because i feel like of anything that seems like it fails the most like the 2011 ones seem like they fail a lot

Jordan FlemingGUEST
yeah i would definitely agree with you i mean i i think the 2011s have a different initial um force than like a striker fire gun and so i think there's a lot of different factors you know, a lot of the 2011s out there, they have different recoil springs based on the weight of the ammo you're using.

Jordan FlemingGUEST
So if you're using a 115 grain, 147, if you're using a 124 P plus, I mean, There's ways to get that dialed in the way you want it as a shooter.

Jordan FlemingGUEST
And there's a lot of different factors when you're trying to mitigate the recoil that's going on on the slide.

Jordan FlemingGUEST
And so, yeah, it's definitely possible to have failure, especially if you're trying to use a cheaper screw.

Jordan FlemingGUEST
I mean, there's some of our screws, Joel, that cost... uh they're a dollar sixty a dollar seventy per screw that's our price um and some of them we have to include uh because we like to include an extra screw in every every plate we send out you know if you're looking at timber that's five screws we're sending out um and so you know i i think it goes back to the quality of the different um manufacturers sourcing you know and i can't speak to where they're sourcing it or how they're getting it or that that plays a big role is you got to be able to have a high potential trend psi on all of the screws not just the plate to the slide but also to the optic to the plate and i go even kind of expanding that on a little bit i mean you know we're our our mission is very simple we want to make the best optic plates in the industry and have a great customer experience and i think people need to care about the little tiny things.

Jordan FlemingGUEST
They need to get back to engineering things and thinking about things from a little tiny perspective.
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Jordan Fleming: The AI Employee Every Real Estate Business Will Eventually Hire
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2:45Andrew BeckerHOST
The evolution has come from phone, text to tell us what, uh, tell us what excited me last time that we spoke, uh, Jordan, what you have going on in, in your individual agents that you have coming out, or that are already out, right?

Jordan FlemingGUEST
And, and that's actually-- The-- It's great you point that out because voice agents aren't shiny objects.

Jordan FlemingGUEST
And, and it's actually a, a really-- You bring up a really interesting point right now because they're being treated as, uh, shiny objects right now, but they're actually far more fundamental if they're designed and integrated properly.

Jordan FlemingGUEST
Because true voice agents that are trained, properly trained in roles, have capabilities, have knowledge, and have an el-element of boundary and, and rules and, and associated with them, true voice agents are far more like employees you hire than software you turn on.
How AI Agents Are Transforming Real Estate Lead Follow-Up
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6:11FreddieHOST
Can you talk about that? Absolutely.

Jordan FlemingGUEST
You know, it all started where the conversations around AI have been very superficial for the last year or so.

Jordan FlemingGUEST
And, you know, everybody talks about tools and prompts and, you know, but the problem is all those things change, right? New tools come out.

Jordan FlemingGUEST
And I only came to that realization as I had to realize in my own business, smartphone, what would it mean to have an agentic AI working in my platform? What does it mean if I've got an AI worker who can make decisions and take action? We've never had that before.
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15:46FreddieHOST
Can you talk about that as much as you can?