to explain and talk about? And how do you go about, especially from the background that you said you came from and then kind of the space that we're in today, how do you talk about some of these things?

Yeah, it's weird.

To talk about those things is weird.

And I don't necessarily...

I'm not expecting someone, someone's dead body to, to, to raise from the dead.

Um, I think, I think in, in general, I, from my perspective, nothing is like the way I would explain it.

It's like, nothing is impossible with God.

You have the

No, I get it.

It was a, it was a big lecture hall.

And I went in, and it was filled.

It was probably, like, maybe 200, 300 people, students.

And they, um...

And what I didn't know at the time is it was Campus Crusade, and I had never heard of, I had never heard of Campus Crusade before.

And so I g- I stood up in the back, very unsure.

Mm-hmm.