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Jonathan Black

Jonathan Black

Former UK Deputy National Security Adviser and Prime Minister's G7/G20 Sherpa, now a strategist on geoeconomics and AI governance.

Sep 16, 2026

28:31
You know, uh, are these warnings from whistleblowers right? Or should we be frightened?
28:36
So th- they are right.
28:37
I also think you're right about these, these two ends of the s- of the spectrum, actually.
28:41
And that, I mean, most of us don't really know a huge amount about AI.
28:46
We're all sort of finding our way through, including, including me, but including people who know a lot more about it than me.
28:51
And that, I think, is, by the way, the risk with the public debate, which is people see it for fun.
28:55
You know, or, you know, I was, the other day, with my seven-year-old, we were like, "Can you make you look like a squirrel?" And all of those sorts of things.

17 MINS LATER

46:24
It's, uh, yeah.

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