Um, is it-- How's it going, maybe is the general way of putting all that.

It's going.

Um, I would say mixed, like with any other push for new tooling.

There are people who are really excited by it and people who are less excited by it.

Our foundations team have really leaned in here.

We're doing some work on Boot at the moment, which will be in Rust.

Um, I am trying to get us away from, i-in as many places as possible, from things that are becoming more antiquated.

Hmm