Yeah.

They are meticulous, meticulous miniaturists with big, expansive visions of what logic and a world are comprised of.

They're both indefatigable.

They never give up.

They live and breathe it.

Their approaches are very different.

Dan has a kind of almost holistic view of, of the logic of a play, and Joe, because, I don't know, maybe because he was an actor for a long time, even though Dan had been an actor, Joe looks for a different kind of character logic.

The idea for John Robin Baitz's new play, Other Desert Cities, came to him when he was back on the East Coast.