What do you go, John?

Yeah.

I made this transition into the private sector a year and a half into this thing.

Took a little bit of a gamble, bet on myself.

I started off in the team setting, in football strength and conditioning.

Played football at the University of North Carolina, Go Heels.

Got my degree in exercise physiology there.

So did that push you to want to keep that? that client base roster?

And what I really want to do first is I want to ask, are you a thermodynamics guy? Are you calories in calories out? Or are you calories in calories out plus other stuff? What do you think matters the most?

Yeah, I actually put out a video on my YouTube channel about this recently, how Seco, calories in, calories out.

Of course, it is the overarching principle of you want to change your body mass, body weight up or body weight down.

There has to be an energy imbalance.

You have to be in a calorie deficit or a calorie surplus.

And SECO, it's a physics principle, you know, and calorie is a physics unit of energy.

And it is an irrefutable principle.

What's a PED or supplement or peptide or anything that you can implement when implementing compounds to give somebody an insanely gnarly training session, session after session?