Jon Erwin

Mm.

So the guy who directed it was in his late 30s, his name is Jon Erwin.

And I said, "Jon, I can talk all day about this to people, but if they can feel it, it'll be a different thing.

If they can feel like they're there." So I did the best of my ability to describe everything I remembered, and I remembered a lot of details, like the carpet was this color.

Yeah.

A friend of mine said, "Hey, they just told us we could pitch our own ideas.

I've got an idea.

Do you wanna help me?" And I said, "No." I said, "I don't want to.

"And you're gonna get a bunch of fish."

Yeah.

And, and you're like, "Well, I'm holding this net." And my friend says, "Do you wanna help me?" And I finally said, "Sure, I'll help you." And it was through that experience.

And we actually sold that show.