Jon Clifton

So how do you think we can leverage hope to help us bridge that gap in the and, or if there's another way that you'd like to come at that?

What is success of an organization without people? [laughs] We have to live in the and, because I think what we're seeing right now, and I reflect back on how we started, you know, and the, the quote from, from Jon Clifton from, from Gallup about, you know, we're, we're closer to colonizing Mars than we are fixing the modern workplace because we refuse to live in the and.

And I don't know...

Honestly, I don't know why.