
Jon Callard
Rugby union player and coach
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Sep 30, 2026
High School football podcast--Baldwin goes independent
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Tim BenzHOST
So I guess then, Jonathan, to spin it to you, Why Baldwin? Why was Baldwin sort of stuck in this rut that John just described? What made Baldwin fall under this tent of teams that were struggling in this context? And can you speak to me then about how they got out of it?

Jonathan CallardGUEST
Yeah, I mean, so, you know, historically they've played in what one of the coaches on Baldwin calls the SEC conference or, you know, section of the Whitfield and the 5A.

Jonathan CallardGUEST
So, you know, guys were just getting gassed by the third, fourth quarter because they were on the field all the time, you know, playing offense and defense and special teams.

Jonathan CallardGUEST
And, you know, Dana Brown came from McKeesport, Coach Dana Brown, Coach Dane and his father, who's the offensive coordinator namesake, came from McKeesport in like 2023.
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22:43John GruppGUEST
There's nobody – but I was wondering if Jonathan can answer this, is how did Baldwin play plum in the opener? Because they're not supposed to be able to play other Whippeal schools unless they're independent.