Chief Digital and Artificial Intelligence Office

the rule of the game in CR, when you're in a CR.

And we had this issue and with the Joint AI Center, I was acquisition, uh, director of the JAIC, uh, which is the DoD Pentagon office that started in 2018.

I think it's the C- it's the CDAO now.

Um, but we started, uh, during a CR, and we, we had to...

Their stated goal was to develop a third wave of AI machines capable of understanding context, adapting to situations that they'd never seen before, and eventually acting more like partners in problem solving than simple computer programs.

That same year, the Pentagon established the Joint Artificial Intelligence Center to push AI across the entire military.

And we already know that happens when Pentagon technology disappears behind the classified curtain.

When the F-47 was finally announced in 2025, the Air Force revealed the experimental X-planes leading to it had already been secretly flying for five years, accumulating hundreds of hours before the public even knew what they were looking at.

Gregory Allen is founder of the independent DecisionTree Research.

He also served in the Department of Defense's Joint Artificial Intelligence Center as a civil servant during the first Trump administration, as well as the Biden administration.

Gregory, welcome.

Good to be with you.