So is that to say that people really, really start paying attention now and, like, these polls are going to matter?

Well, let's review where the polls are.

And I would say that nothing really has changed in the last month.

There have been three or four polls in the interim, and they've shown effectively the same numbers.

I mean, Olivia Chow today has 50%, according to a poll that would have a margin of error of three points.

She had in the previous poll 49 and 47 before that.

So you can argue that's fairly flat.

So, is that a problem for Olivia?

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Last year was the era of live coding.

You can build anything.

Yeah, you can still build everything today.

But where and when do agents work? And it's not to say we're using agents to replace people, but we need to get better at everything, like better at customer support, customer success.

This is for everyone, like for us as a SaaS company, for affiliates, because affiliates have to work with operators and affiliate managers.

And on the other side, we expect them to work more with players and owning their data and actually having conversations with players as if they are the VIP manager, where this is actually going to become a thing.

So how can you still be relevant? Great

Welcome to you both.

Thanks so much.

Who's your favourite cricketer and why?

I meant to say Alex Carey, but I might say Warnie.

Welcome to you both.

Thanks so much.

Thank you,

Who's your favourite cricketer and why?

I meant to say Alex Carey, but I might say Warnie.

People don't vote a lot during by elections, but it's certainly a time that where your vote matters.

Well, they do matter and it matters tonight.

There are three out of nine ridings which are available.

The prime minister was called by elections for three.

There's six more to go at some point when he decides to do that.

But we've got one in North Vancouver, Capilano, which there have been some polling results.

polls done in each one of the three ridings and i'm just going to suggest the average of those but if you take a look where jonathan wilkerson um had resigned and he's now the ambassador to the european union that's out of north vancouver capilano the liberals which had held that seat for many years looks like they're going to continue on with i'm running about 50 in the polls to the conservatives at 29 the ndp at 11 and the green at 10. so a handy potential win there tonight If you take a look over into Beaches, East York, you see that's where Nate Ishton Smith used to be.

What do you see of people kind of, you know, coming to the table with reading these results tomorrow? Is it are we reading too much into that?

Are there, are there people, are there less people running for mayor and counselor where we get more defaults or have I just never caught onto it?

Oftentimes what happens is that in the 15 ridings where there are acclaimed people in Ontario, for instance, is that they are well-known mayors who have received a significant vote in the previous couple of elections.

So people just basically don't run elections.

I mean, you don't want to run against somebody and lose your deposit, lose all of the money you put up for it.

It's not as if there aren't issues there, but the incumbent mayor may have won by 7,500, as many as 20,000 votes in the previous election campaigns, and people say, I don't want to do that.

In other cases, there will be somebody, if a mayor is stepping down, there might be a deputy mayor who decides to step into the position, and much the same thing happens.

You get municipal councillors who are dealing with That kind of rotation.

So you heard this here first, CEO of Canada Pulse Insights, John Wright, says that sometimes people like politicians.

That's one of the other things that you guys do here, in addition to this great new equipment from Kubota and others.

Absolutely.

Just got done with our summer consignment auction.

Got 1,500 pieces of equipment, new homes here in East Tennessee, whether it be tractors, excavation, construction equipment, farm machinery across the board.

So like you said, in addition to our new retail sales on Massey Ferguson and Kubota equipment, we also provide that service the third Saturday in March, August, and November of each year.

Our next one will be coming up the third Saturday of November.

Looking forward to that, but we've got a lot of people coming in and out, picking up their equipment, and, of course, getting to work with that new awesome stuff for them.

I would like to sell that to you, but in six months, you're not going to be happy with that.

Are Canadians ready to scrap it out with the United States? Where's the mood at?

There's been a lot of polling in the last couple of weeks.

I've looked at it.

I've looked at my own polling, and it's a very interesting landscape.

So I'd say, first of all, the question is whether or not they believe that there is a deal to be had.

And six in 10 Canadians don't believe... that they're dealing with a president that, you know, you can depend upon to get a deal.

So if the mission is to get a deal, most Canadians will say, well, that might be impossible because of what the man is like.

But do we have a sense? Is there any research that sort of says what Canadians think Canada should exist for?

So, uh, does polling on, uh, you know, the middle of all, well, a little past the middle here of August make any difference for an October 26th election?

Well, uh, yeah, it does.

It gets, uh, people talking about it, and it gets supporters involved and things like that.

But let's go right to the key question.

That is, does Chris Alexander have what he's getting out of these two polls? Let me, let me take you down a bit of a rabbit hole.

So first of all, um, when you look at what's been done so far, he's between 6% and 11% of the vote.

There have been two firms that have done the polling, and their methodologies are- Are, are, are fine, uh, especially at this time.

If you were to poll only three names, Olivia Chow, Brad Bradford, and The Jerry Agar Show producer, Cristina Galley, would she get 10 or 11%?

Does that matter to the general public?

public?It can because it, you frame a, a particular opponent as being a flip-flopper.

But on the other hand, there's two things that go with this.

Number one, candidates and, uh, politicians do change their minds, and the biggest changer of minds that we've seen in the last period of time has been Doug Ford, where, in fact, whether it be the Green Bank or whether it's been the, um, uh, the jet or other issues that he's dealt with.

I mean, he's come four-square out and said, "I've made a mistake.

I've changed.

I'm going to go in a different direction." And it hasn't really hurt his overall vote numbers.

And at what point do I think your promise is really not worth a whole lot because one year into your administration, you might say, 'Well, I changed my mind.'"

Your take on that week's worth of two different polls.

Well, um, a, a few things.

Number one, um, Olivia Chow's new best friend is Chris Alexander, because as long as Chris Alexander stays in the race and there's a group of people who, uh, wanna have a third choice in this, it tends to draw from Brad Bradford, and you're seeing that right here.

So, uh, uh, when you have a distinct ballot between one candidate to another, it's pretty easy to get closer.

Now this is going to draw away.

Number two, there's 20% undecided.

Those people oftentimes don't show up to the polls, so we can say, "Okay, some of them will, some of them won't." The real issue for me right now is looking at how many people actually know, uh, Chris Alexander.

I- what in this poll would make their camp happy, and what would concern them?

You

know, and at one point, I think if I remember correctly, Bob waves to the.

So, yeah, they're definitely in on it.

And that's he never he takes everything he does serious, but he never takes it, at least in this universe.

so seriously as much interaction as you can project it from a protected image he somehow found it finds you know it's akin to the people that were at the movie that i saw because the very last screening there had already been some people that are laughing there from stuff like that but there was that tremendous fan like star yeah the audience is in on

about your scene because i know ben and i've got the same it

is when they are surrounded oh god you know if you're not jay and silent bob you're free to leave and they're they're panicking they don't know what to do jay looks over and sees the young boy dressed in the movie and puts it on soon they come out and there's this long unnecessary story about how they're a gay couple, but Jay has sex with a woman on the side.

So he's not a hundred percent gay, but this guy loves, loves the, yep.

because as you get to

certain parts of the Irish background, you lose records.

You can't find them, but we managed to.

So there's a bit of a sweeping story with an Easter egg of Canada in it, and that is that a family from Waterford named the Harterees and a family of the Mahoneys from Skibbereen end up in a place called Clyde Nick Vale or clinic Vale, which is a mining town in the 1880s in Wales.

And My great-grandmother and her three-year-old toddler die of the disease that sweeps through the family and the village at the time, and she's buried in Trelaw Cemetery.

We found in the last week that, in fact, of all of the family graves that are there, hers is in the pauper's grave, meaning that it is municipally owned.

In those days, they could pile other bodies in with it, but we're lucky there's only she and her three-year-old.

You also found something else about your family lineage and how it affects back here in Canada.

Uh, your thoughts on what a government can do to actually address the affordability issue.

Well, in fact, what most people are seeing in the current government is build Canada better.

Um, that's the advertising, that's the slogan, that's, that's the activity that the, the prime minister has.

So indirectly, if you believe that there's a fundamental problem with an external character and, for instance, uh, you know, world oil prices that are causing the inflation throughout the economy, there's not much you can do about it immediately.

But what you hope you can have is a, is a leader who recognizes and is doing something about the things that might cause things to be better.

So you're absolutely right.

I mean, you and I go to the grocery store on the weekend, and we see how much the cost of that is.

Is there a way out of this hole for Pierre Poilievre?

How long does it usually take? I mean, is there a rule of thumb for when you start to see it show up in some polling if it is an issue, if it's an issue that will impact polling ultimately?

Yeah, I think that this will take a little bit.

But the real point is, where is it connected to other things? So put it in context.

We don't have an election for probably a couple of years unless the premier decides to go himself or take the party earlier into an election.

Number two, you don't need a majority to get a majority.

You need around 41%.

So, you know, you look at those numbers all the time.

When you make your reputation on looking out for the little guy and being a fiscal conservative, whether you are or not, I do think these can impact in a much more difficult way than they might for a different political stripe.

That's how Rob Ford became mayor, correct? It wasn't downtown Toronto, progress Toronto who were voting for Rob Ford.

Ford.Absolutely. And that's the thing.

And we, we live in a huge city.

Uh, we live in, um, you know, places where whether you're in Etobicoke or Scarborough, you have different local issues, but you also have different sense of the personality and how they've looked after you.

I mean, we see Olivia Chow in the last, uh, short while out in Scarborough quite regularly.

It's clear that she wants to make sure that that base is holding up for her out there.

As I said, I mean, the, the sharp edge of the stick here is when two things happen.

"Well, they didn't call me." Did they call you, Jerry? Well, you don't have to call everybody.

So that first version you've built, how long did it take to build and what sort of tools or methodology you're using to bring it to life?

I started out my career as a DBA and I worked for a company which is now part of EG in a public group.

It's called Axiom Corporation and it's a large data and data services company based out of Arkansas.

The primary function which they were building direct or they were building databases for was for direct mail.

That evolved in the late 90s.

I was very fortunate to see that as email was popping in, that email was going to become a formative channel, much like SMS has become one in the last 10 years for businesses and said, direct mail is awfully expensive.

You got to pay postage, paper, processing time, all of those things.

I'm curious what your answer is now.

And I think it would be a terrible shame if we didn't hear a bit about that and how you've maintained both the parity of leadership and also the strength of your marriage.

We've been together for 47 years.

Wow.

Married for 42 and a half.

I was a baby when you met me.

Yes.

And we've always worked together in one form or another, in a jewellery shop when I was making jewellery, but also then in ministry for the last whatever it is.

I

And

that's the thing is because you don't need a majority to get a majority.

You need 37%.

So anything above that is good.

So he gets 39%.

And then you get, well, if there was an election held tomorrow and it's not going to be for another three years.

You get, you know, you get 41% saying that they would vote for the government.

But is 52% thinking, maybe it's time for a change of some kind? Is that something that you would pay attention

Can you shed some light on that for listeners and what you all put in a report about the KKK?

Yeah, the Klan existed in Georgia around the country following the Civil War, but it sort of served its purpose.

After the election of 1870, the Klan's role as a to facilitate the reestablishment of Southern white control of government was done.

So it disbanded until the early part of the 20th century.

It was refounded in 1915.

Actually, they had a big cross burning on Stone Mountain on the night of Thanksgiving in 1915.

There had been calls to reestablish the Klan prior to that, you know, in 1906, but as early as 1900, one of the factors that, that, uh, led to the refounding of the clan was actually the, um, the, uh, birth of a nation release sort of glorified the old clan and, um, um, made, you know, made reestablishment of the clan a lot easier.

And John, so then the question is, where did you find this information?

AND FOR A LITTLE BIT OF PERSONAL REFLECTION, I'LL START WITH YOU, JOHN, BECAUSE I WANT TO KNOW WHY YOU WANTED TO BE PART OF THIS PROJECT.

WELL, KARSHIKA AND I, DR. SIMS-ALVARADO AND I HAVE WORKED ON VARIOUS RESEARCH PROJECTS FOR YEARS.

when she was selected as chair of the task force, she asked if I could do, uh, research for the task force.

And, you know, at that point I was a library employee of Fulton County library system.

And I said, you know, I'm going to need you to get permission from the library system for, for me to do research.

And, um, Karshik had a request sent to the library director, Gail Holloman, and she, fortunately for me, and I think for the task force as well, approved having me do research for the task force.

So I was actually the only paid member of the research team as I was getting paid by the library system to do the research that I did.

John?

That's got to count for something.

Well, it does.

And it's, it's what I said.

I mean, you've, you've had now generations of kids who have grown up in soccer fields and whether they're in downtown Toronto or whether in the outskirts, I mean, it's part of their lives.

They've gone through school.

They've gone through leagues.

What's interesting to me is that I did a poll a year ago, just under a year ago when the blue Jays were just starting there to move towards the, the world series, 60% of Canadians said that they were excited about the blue Jays.

Do you want to take us through some of the numbers that some of your colleagues in polling have done?

Okay.

Number two, you c- you, you, you do this on a quarterly basis, and you use the same calculations over and over again.

And if we look back, uh, when Doug Ford was in Captain Canada mode at the beginning of the Trump, um, overtures to the 51st state, he was actually the highest, um, rated premier in the country in that poll, at around 50%, and he has deteriorated since.

But that's because, you know, you come back to earth and there's different issues.

Having said that, there's a few points.

Number one, um, leaders often trail their parties before they go into an election.

Dalton McGuinty, Mike Harris, all of the others from, from, uh, you know, we'll, we'll find.

Um, so how can it be possible that the leader of a political party in some, you know, place as big as Ontario is not popular right now, and yet his party is?

currency?

I think the best strategy is to start with one channel and master it rather than trying five and then being frustrated that all five didn't work at the same time.

And it requires an odd amount of patience.

Now, you will see people that have basically been able to go from nothing to, let's say, 20,000 followers in a short period of time, which is amazing for them.

But I think you need to focus on yourself and say, stack your wins, get a couple followers here and there, and A lot of people that I talk to that have gone through these experiences of building their own social profile, it can take time.

And then as you start compounding things, whether it's, let's say, a YouTube channel, you are creating this content that sticks there and keeps collectively adding subscribers over time.

So just basically pick one channel, master it, be patient, which I think is what most people don't do.

what advantages does bootstrapping give founders

So what I wanna ask is what were you actually feeling about a week after you left that position?

Man, I probably like bit off more than I can chew, you know? Like, uh, it, it's one of those things where I've been doing this now for the best part of 15 years, so I feel like I, I've been through some stuff, you know.

I've built companies, I've exited companies, I've worked network side, product side, studio side.

Like I've done, I've done quite a variety of things, and I feel like my experience over that time has solidified and grown, and I, I see a lot of different aspects of things.

And that's why, why my initial thought was like, "Okay, I'm leaving Qualy because of, of, of personal reasons.

I want to..." And I didn't know what I wanted to do next.

But equally, man, I knew that like just taking like three to six months off isn't me.

Not, not that long, but I, let's be honest.