John Updike

I'm not entirely sure any of that has anything to do with what Conor McGregor has ever done or said, but that there are multiple versions of him existing at once, and they are going to have to fight it out with each other for which one becomes the dominant media narrative about him, and we've seen that happen.

I mean, it's that great John Updike thing, the mask eats the face.

you know, that it felt so strongly to me that we were watching someone about to lose themselves, that it kind of bums me out that there was the controversy about Crumlin because like, I think what the story is actually about has been proven undeniably true.

And so like, that's a big bummer for me is that like, you know, like, uh, I didn't land the airplane, but there was a lot of interesting things going on there that I feel are still relevant, not only for him, but for this discussion we're having about Mike Tyson.

You have people arguing about what it is to be a Methodist, and, you know, they're going to start, you know, doing threats over cute kittens but uh but if you type it it sounds like the

anna jameson movement in uh john updike's uh uh hotel new hampshire you know

yeah

you know you can i think you should get certified you should and that's certified like crazy certified as a minister

And that really was just going to like flip a lot of what we knew about Westish College on its head a little bit.

It got me thinking about, you know, the Glass family in Salinger's stories and novellas and, you know, Updike, for instance.

Are there kind of literary touch points for you in terms of this practice of expanding a world beyond just one book?

I mean, I love those examples you mentioned.

I love the Rabbit, Updike's Rabbit books.

You know, and it's, those books are inspiring because they actually get better as they go along.

Yeah, they do.

It would be almost as good as mine.

Also, this is based on a novel written by John Updike, which I want to mention.

I know that name, but I don't know how.

Yeah, I don't know.

They're so beautifully balanced.

Uh, John Updike's, um...

Actually I think of John Updike's letters read as if they're meant to be read by others more than, not just his mother, to whom he wrote 3,000 letters.

Uh, somehow they managed it.

I, I can't.