John Trevelyan

So, yeah, I'll just read the quote about cutting the rape of Christ scene.

This is by this is from John Trevelyan, who is the BBC examiner who he sent the movie to that was helping him out with.

If people recognize the last name Trevelyan, it's because John Trevelyan had a real big issue with the violence in James Bond movies because they were meant for kids and families and stuff like that.

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So as revenge, the Broccoli's in the first Pierce Brosnan, James Bond film, Goldeneye, the bad guy's name is Alec Trevelyan, named after John Trevelyan.

I mean, mosques, places of worship are very beautiful.

I wonder if it's because we're surrounded so much with casual Christianity, where it feels cool to see something that feels like, oh, we are worshiping a god, versus just like, Jesus is my boyfriend, and I'm playing the acoustic guitar.

Yeah, admittedly, there were a lot of, because when I grew up in Hawaii, there was a lot of youth groups that would be like, well, it's pizza party time.

We've got frappuccinos.

So maybe you could tell us a bit about how, from your point of view, how this has shifted and, you know, with this reconstruction slash restoration, like what kind of intervention do you think this is into the way that people talk about The Devils?

I mean, I think it's extraordinary, the reception that the film first had from the very beginning, excuse me for the fact that I've lost my voice slightly because I've been doing interviews and I've talked too much, but when the film was first seen by John Trevelyan, head of the BBFC, he knew that it was important, with the British Board of Film Classification, he knew that it was important.

He also knew that it was going to have trouble with the censors.

when the British Board of Film Classification saw it, at least one member of the examining team actually thought that they couldn't pass the film at all.