John Tingle

It's a great experience and it really just shows what it's about.

But also, you know, what you're saying, John, in a corporate world, I've had politicians show up for the news announcements plenty of times.

You know, they come up and they want to talk about something really briefly and, you know, get the news article out there and then they disappear and they're not really overly engaged, but they're there for a moment.

You guys are here for four days.

And I think maybe that's changing slowly, but And it takes something like what we've just seen happen in December to shock some of the ordinary people, ordinary shooters, ordinary hunters into some sort of reaction.

If there's one basic disappointment that I've had, and this sort of brought me to the point of looking at it from an NGO point of view, and the success that the anti-hunting NGOs have had in Australia in the last 50 years, I'll give you an example.

Owen, first Green that was elected to the New South Wales Parliament in 1995, was elected in the same election as John Tingle was.

They both, he was the only green and John was the only shooter.