John Steenhuisen

I didn't want that, so we had to lobby hard for them to change their minds.

I personally spoke to John Steenhuisen, who was DA leader at the time, and he agreed that they would support my candidacy.

We spoke to MKP.

We spoke to a few other political parties.

So it is an extraordinary decision.

And I, again, want to remind you that John Steenhuisen, and I'm not beating him with a stick this time.

I'm not beating him with a stick this time.

John Steenhuisen has a matric and no tertiary qualification.

And for all that I have said about John Steenhuisen, and boy, I have said a lot about him on Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, television, radio, and on stage, he was a very, very competent chief whip, and he was a very, very competent leader of a political party, and in some cases, a decent enough effective administrator.

And it's important to acknowledge the way that he did that by being, by going up through the ranks of the DA as a ward counselor and getting into local governments and all this kind of stuff.

And that would be my counterargument to the, you were saying there are many, many ways to get politically educated, and it doesn't just require a university degree.

Let's make it official for everyone.

To say John Steenhuisen, his kids, who are they married to? Yeah, let it be for all kids, you know?

Yeah.

And in fact, we, we must now know where Julius Malema's kids go to, uh-

Mm.

But I mean, it, it, it, uh, the, the John Steenhuisen, his interview with, um, with Adrian Basson of News24, throwing Tony Leon and, um, ANC and, and DA colleagues under the bus, feeling slighted about having his agriculture ministry post taken away from him.

Mm.

And, and there are other indications as well, and, and you raise, you ask the question, should Jordan Hill-Lewis be in parliament? Should he be there as the minister of something and keeping a tighter rein on the DA caucus? Or should he...

The city's currently governed by a coalition arrangement led by ActionSA, the ANC, and EFF.

Here's DA leader John Steenhuisen.

Now, let me tell you, our first and most important piece of business in Tshwane is to end coalition chaos.

The residents of Pretoria, of Tshwane, can choose a stable, strong government.

That's what you should do.

And you took on your minister, who clearly was part of, uh, of this meeting, John Steenhuisen, here talking to you, foot-and-mouth disease.

We spoke when there was no talking of foot-and-mouth disease.

In fact, no one seemed to be interested in it, and you were waving flags.