John Spencer

And so, you know, my start in project based learning actually came from reading your book, The Epic Classroom.

and The Launch Cycle by John Spencer and A.J. Giuliani.

And so I was so inspired by those books that I told myself, you know, every year as a teacher, I reinvented myself year after year.

First of all, it was to keep me from getting bored.

All you had was the literature.

And my favorite authors were like Jenny Randles and John Spencer and John Keel and Jacques Veillet, who I think is the godfather of ufology.

But then we had these UFO casebooks guys.

And what they did in the UFO casebooks is they'd let you know of – ufo sightings worldwide and bryce norton hello um so ufo sightings new sightings but also revisiting histories like gulf breeze and um lonnie zamora and kelly hopkinsville all the classic but betty and barney hill but they started to um print these photographs of crop circles and they were really basic.